USA button, reales, gold, and other relics

Tommy G

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I just returned from a six day hunt yesterday, so this will be my longest post ever! I got permission to hunt an 1868 estate (100+ acres), original home and out buildings still standing. The property is documented back to the original 1660 land patent granted by King Charles II. The land boarders the Potomac River. The owner introduced me to a local archaeologist that has been documenting the area for the past 25 years. Before my hunt began, I toured the property with him for about two hours, soaking up the history this guy had accumulated. Probably the most important history shared with me was the fact that there used to be a large pier on the river that served as a major cargo port from the mid to late 1700's. He was even able to point out the path the wagons took as they ventured to and from port. In total, I spent six full days hunting the area and managed to pull together some nice finds, some of which you see the in the table wrap up photo below. Most of the finds were found along the old wagon road, others closer to the house which has been occupied and passed down through multiple generations. Because of the long, documented history of this land, I expected to find an lot of cross-generation relics, which was the case.

Finds.webp

Now to some close ups. This pewter USA button was found along the old road about 100 yards from the shoreline where the pier connected.

USA front.webpUSA back.webpUSA back 2.webp

Before l left on Saturday, I met again with the archaeologist to show him this button and a few other finds. After closely examining the button, he said he could find no reason to believe this was not an authentic Continental Army enlisted button. I even argued with him due to the remarkable condition it was in. He told me there were multiple patterns of this button produced, some of poor quality, others of much better quality. He then commented on the excellent soil condition as a contributing factor, and went on the point out the excellent condition of the 1781 reale that I found not 20 yards away from this button.

1781 reale front.webp1781 reale back.webp

In fact, I found a half real, a couple of cut reales and a cut copper as well.

cut coins.webp

I can barely make out part of a bust on the cut copper. The back has no detail. Would love to hear your ideas on this one.

half copper front.webphalf copper back.webp

Then I stumbled on to this beautiful dropped, 50+ caliber three ringer.

large bullet.webplarge bullet bottom.webp

And a smaller one, maybe in the .32 caliber range that may or may not be period. Opinions welcome.

small bullet.webpsmall bullet botton.webp

A nice convex sliver button with pattern.

silver button front.webpsilver button back.webp

A gold cuff link, both pieces found in the hole.

gold cuff front.webpgold cuff back.webp

Some mystery buttons. The shank tells me 18th century, but the finish is very odd. All are quarter size. Again, comments welcome.

Mystery buttons group.webpMystery button close up.webp

Several of these. All with Waterbury Conn on the back. The website refers to these as hat buttons. Not sure of age, but found three, this one being the best condition.

hat button front.webphat button back.webp

Several pieces of large caliber rim fire brass, these two being the best examples. Both have two strike marks on them, indicating a misfire on the first shot. I have an .40 S&W for sizing comparison, these a slightly larger.

casings.webpcasings 2.webp

Part of a colonial buckle frame and knee buckle frame.

buckle frame.webpknee buckle frame.webp

Not going to post close ups the tombacs and flat buttons, but multiple sizes were found. I will end this post with a real head-scratcher. What appears to be (according to my research) a King George VI Royal Engineers button (WWII era). I have found a couple of identical examples on the internet, one stating that it was made by C. Pitt & Co. However, I've not found any photos that show a back mark. In fact, I've not been able to find a single C. Pitt back mark example, leading me to believe they had none. Anyway, not sure of the authenticity of this one. All I can say is that I found it several inches deep on a high ridge line, overlooking the Potomac.

Engineer front.webpEngineer back.webp

I could go on forever, but will cut this short :laughing7: Thanks for checking out the post, and if you want a close up, or have any questions about the other finds in wrap up photo, just let me know.
 

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Amazing hunt. Incredible buttons and coins. That USA button is in unbelievable shape. The small bullet is post war.
 

Having a site like that is like stepping back in history & time- Congrats on the absolutely amazing finds!

-- Jeff --
 

Great hunt and a lot of very nice finds congrats !
The shank of the USA button looks a little different from what i`v seen.
Gary
 

Having a site like that is like stepping back in history & time- Congrats on the absolutely amazing finds!

-- Jeff --

I agree, and with this site the finds move between centuries. I never knew what the next beep was going to produce.
 

Amazing hunt. Incredible buttons and coins. That USA button is in unbelievable shape. The small bullet is post war.

Thanks, Steve. I was leaning that way because of the striations in the top crimping groves. The groves at the base were throwing me off.
 

Awesome hunt w/so much history - Gold star on this report!
 

I've seen posts where finds like yours were titled "best finds of the year"
Congrats on the epic finds and hunt.
 

wow Tommy some incredible finds! If that USA is legit it's a no brainer BANNER. It looks different to me but I am from from an expert on those. Curious to hear what the experts say about that baby. i sure hope its legit bro. Beauty Spanish as well
 

I've seen posts where finds like yours were titled "best finds of the year"
Congrats on the epic finds and hunt.

Thanks, BWDave. Now that I think about it, these would have to be my best of the year. Thanks for checking out the post
 

Totally outstanding! Hope you can reach that high again.
 

Great hunt... well done.
 

Great hunt, great post, awesome finds!!! That USA button is in incredible condition! Love that Reale also.
Congrats and HH
 

wow Tommy some incredible finds! If that USA is legit it's a no brainer BANNER. It looks different to me but I am from from an expert on those. Curious to hear what the experts say about that baby. i sure hope its legit bro. Beauty Spanish as well

Thanks, Ahab8. Legit or not, all of these finds will be returned to the owner once I've completed my research. So beyond trying to positively ID what I've found, I don't have a dog in the hunt as far as these relics go. The archaeologist I mentioned earlier has been allowed to do two excavations on the property, but the last was ten years ago and I think he is trying to rekindle his relationship with the owner. I actually think he was a little miffed that the owner was allowing a metal detectorist on the property, but for the chance at future site digs, he reluctantly "gave me the tour". I honestly think he was looking for a way to ID that button as a replica, and I even argued that it was; but I think he was conflicted. On the one hand, if he pronounced it a replica it was sure to be discarded at some point. On the other hand, if it was real then he is hoping that the owner will donate it, and some of the other finds, to the museum he supports...and that very well could happen. Bottom line is that I am still open to any and all opinions on that button. It's certainly not going hurt my feelings if others want to challenge it. Thanks again for checking on the post.
 

Great hunt, great post, awesome finds!!! That USA button is in incredible condition! Love that Reale also.
Congrats and HH

Thanks, Dude. Judging by your avatar, you seem to have some experience with the USA buttons!
 

pretty much covered all the bases except for a Zincoln
 

Great hunt and a lot of very nice finds congrats !
The shank of the USA button looks a little different from what i`v seen.
Gary
I was also concerned about the "look" of the USA button. I have only dug one but it had a big honking cast in loop shank like others I've seen. But there are lots of variations of this button.
 

Tommy here are two shanks from pewter USA buttons.
The shank on your USA looks like a reenactment button.
Gary

Picture 55.webp
 

Fantastic finds, and stellar condition! Great job. -Lisa & John
 

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