Warren & Steele musket help please

[GOZZER]

So happy I found this group! I will be spending a lot of time exploring all these wonderful threads! I have this musket that has been passed down and have very little information on it. Will enjoy giving to my son when it is time, but would love to tell him some facts about it. Thank you for any info you can share!

 

[releventchair]

So happy I found this group! I will be spending a lot of time exploring all these wonderful threads! I have this musket that has been passed down and have very little information on it. Will enjoy giving to my son when it is time, but would love to tell him some facts about it. Thank you for any info you can share!View attachment 2220130View attachment 2220131View attachment 2220132View attachment 2220133View attachment 2220134View attachment 2220135View attachment 2220136View attachment 2220137View attachment 2220138View attachment 2220139View attachment 2220140View attachment 2220141View attachment 2220142

J.Chismore was a relative of the Remington's. (The Remington's of firearm fame.)
Here's a Facebook quote.
[Jimmy McCullough
I have a half stock with p and Remington stamped underneath. It was made and signed by j Chismore who was elaphet Remingtons nephew the son of Elizabeth Remington. Camp Chismore in New York is named for him, he was caputured at Petersburg ( crater) and died th a pow camp. He made about 25 guns before joining the army.]

I didn't look up Warren and Steele.
Half stock rifle suits the Civil war era for new builds.
Double pinned and trigger guard style hint of Hawkins farther West . (St. Lewis around 1820 to start thier shop there.)
The cheek piece a bit fancy. And hints of earlier rifles like certain full stock "golden age" ones..
But builders had thier inspirations from multiple sources. And multiple "schools" of build existed over time .

The builder didn't make thier own lock (Warren and Steele did that ).
I don't know if J.C. made the octagon to round barrel or just put his mark on it.

 

[GOZZER]

J.Chismore was a relative of the Remington's. (The Remington's of firearm fame.)
Here's a Facebook quote.
[Jimmy McCullough
I have a half stock with p and Remington stamped underneath. It was made and signed by j Chismore who was elaphet Remingtons nephew the son of Elizabeth Remington. Camp Chismore in New York is named for him, he was caputured at Petersburg ( crater) and died th a pow camp. He made about 25 guns before joining the army.]

I didn't look up Warren and Steele.
Half stock rifle suits the Civil war era for new builds.
Double pinned and trigger guard style hint of Hawkins farther West . (St. Lewis around 1820 to start thier shop there.)
The cheek piece a bit fancy. And hints of earlier rifles like certain full stock "golden age" ones..
But builders had thier inspirations from multiple sources. And multiple "schools" of build existed over time .

The builder didn't make thier own lock (Warren and Steele did that ).
I don't know if J.C. made the octagon to round barrel or just put his mark on it.

Thank you so much for that info! That is far more than I could ever find. This is a wonderful site with very knowledgeable people. I feel blessed to have found it for many other reasons. I love treasure hunting and learning about history. This website is full of great minds and info.

 

[BennyV]

Looks old

 

[l.cutler]

Not a musket but a rifle. Very nice, especially with the Remington connection.

 

[GOZZER]

Not a musket but a rifle. Very nice, especially with the Remington connection.

thanks for the clarification-new to old black powder rifles

 

[GOZZER]

J.Chismore was a relative of the Remington's. (The Remington's of firearm fame.)
Here's a Facebook quote.
[Jimmy McCullough
I have a half stock with p and Remington stamped underneath. It was made and signed by j Chismore who was elaphet Remingtons nephew the son of Elizabeth Remington. Camp Chismore in New York is named for him, he was caputured at Petersburg ( crater) and died th a pow camp. He made about 25 guns before joining the army.]

I didn't look up Warren and Steele.
Half stock rifle suits the Civil war era for new builds.
Double pinned and trigger guard style hint of Hawkins farther West . (St. Lewis around 1820 to start thier shop there.)
The cheek piece a bit fancy. And hints of earlier rifles like certain full stock "golden age" ones..
But builders had thier inspirations from multiple sources. And multiple "schools" of build existed over time .

The builder didn't make thier own lock (Warren and Steele did that ).
I don't know if J.C. made the octagon to round barrel or just put his mark on it.

This is fascinating and would really like to find out more info

 

[l.cutler]

thanks for the clarification-new to old black powder rifles

No problem. Basically, a musket is a large caliber, full stock, smoothbore military arm. There are a wide variety of muzzleloading rifles, this one is a smaller caliber half stock hunting type rifle.

 

[Jose The Goon]

Beautiful, preserved family heirloom. Congrats & welcome to TreasureNet !! Cheers !!

 

[GOZZER]

Beautiful, preserved family heirloom. Congrats & welcome to TreasureNet !! Cheers !!

thank you!

 

[GOZZER]

No problem. Basically, a musket is a large caliber, full stock, smoothbore military arm. There are a wide variety of muzzleloading rifles, this one is a smaller caliber half stock hunting type rifle.

It is a heavy rifle for sure

 

[Gare]

Isn't it a confederate rifle ?

 

[l.cutler]

Isn't it a confederate rifle ?

There is no indication that it is. Very, very early in the civil war there was some usage of civilian rifles but it was rare. Some sharpshooters used heavy barreled civilian target rifles as well, but again, it was rare.