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What do you think these are??....another picture added
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Re: What do you think these are??
They sure don't look like anything I have seen or know of that is commonly found in our area Larson. They do resemble the Munkers Creek type that is regularly found in Kansas and Nebraska. It is very possible they could have found there way up a little further north.
Do you have any type of I.D. book Larson?
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They sure don't look like anything I have seen or know of that is commonly found in our area Larson. They do resemble the Munkers Creek type that is regularly found in Kansas and Nebraska. It is very possible they could have found there way up a little further north.
Do you have any type of I.D. book Larson?
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Re: What do you think these are??
Not Munkers. Munkers Creek are more common in east central and southern KS (regardless of what O-Street says) and down into Oklahoma and over into Missouri on occasion. They don't have a real large distribution range, and are from the MC phase.
Your points could be forms of Pryor, which actually are pretty damned old. I've seen them with the "fish-tail" look before, and they will often have fine flaking. The one second from the left looks like it may be made of plate chalcedony? Do you find a lot of that in your area?
Not Munkers. Munkers Creek are more common in east central and southern KS (regardless of what O-Street says) and down into Oklahoma and over into Missouri on occasion. They don't have a real large distribution range, and are from the MC phase.
Your points could be forms of Pryor, which actually are pretty damned old. I've seen them with the "fish-tail" look before, and they will often have fine flaking. The one second from the left looks like it may be made of plate chalcedony? Do you find a lot of that in your area?
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Re: What do you think these are??
larson, they look to be fairly round and polished. Could they possibly be a type of Drill? Maybe used to drill Pipe stems.
larson, they look to be fairly round and polished. Could they possibly be a type of Drill? Maybe used to drill Pipe stems.
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I first thought drill also just from the looks maybe to get at the marrow in bones.... gee I do not know. Nice artifacts and finds.
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I first thought drill also just from the looks maybe to get at the marrow in bones.... gee I do not know. Nice artifacts and finds.
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Re: What do you think these are??
No idea, but they sure are nice pieces. Thanks for showing. What will you come up with next, friend?
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No idea, but they sure are nice pieces. Thanks for showing. What will you come up with next, friend?
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"The one second from the left looks like it may be made of plate chalcedony? Do you find a lot of that in your area?"
Yes, we have that material up here. It comes out of the Badlands, but I have only heard of it called sheet chalcedony up here. A friend of mine has several jars of the mined material in preform. I have one piece of it myself pre-form.
"The one second from the left looks like it may be made of plate chalcedony? Do you find a lot of that in your area?"
Yes, we have that material up here. It comes out of the Badlands, but I have only heard of it called sheet chalcedony up here. A friend of mine has several jars of the mined material in preform. I have one piece of it myself pre-form.
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Re: What do you think these are??
I have white one also and it is polished so much that you can barely see the flaking
I don't have much for books
I have white one also and it is polished so much that you can barely see the flaking
I don't have much for books
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Re: What do you think these are??
Quito, I've been curious as to the raw tendencies of the plate / sheet Chalcedony. Not all, but most agates tend to be pretty tough until heat treating, which is why I hypothesize that you will find lesser paleo points out of agates in some areas, even when the material was available to them. Was just curious about the knapping quality of the raw plate / sheet Chalcedony - have you ever tinkered with it?
Quito, I've been curious as to the raw tendencies of the plate / sheet Chalcedony. Not all, but most agates tend to be pretty tough until heat treating, which is why I hypothesize that you will find lesser paleo points out of agates in some areas, even when the material was available to them. Was just curious about the knapping quality of the raw plate / sheet Chalcedony - have you ever tinkered with it?
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here is another picture of 3 other pieces
the more I think about it these might not be that similar, but here they are anyway
since a few of you think they could be drills I am posting "ass't drills" check out the two on the right in that post, they look kinda similar to me
the KRF piece on the left looks resharpened to me
the more I think about it these might not be that similar, but here they are anyway
since a few of you think they could be drills I am posting "ass't drills" check out the two on the right in that post, they look kinda similar to me
the KRF piece on the left looks resharpened to me
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Nice artifacts Larson.
Concerning the first picture you posted, I'm not sure what they may be but the edges on most of them look smooth from use.
Another material opinion (1st picture) on the second piece from the left would be white petrified wood.
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