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What's on your hip when out prospecting?

That used to be my moto as well, until recent years when I have seen this country flip from supporting law enforcement to demonizing law enforcement and celebrating the criminals. Now those same 12 would find you guilty even on a righteous shoot and lock you up for the rest of your life and take everything you have and everything you will have.
The threat of life in prison is less if a deterrent the older I get. As you know, Florida has stand your ground and castle law.

When I pulled my piece in downtown Orlando, someone had called the police. I asked the officer that came what would have happen if I had shot the attacker, police told me nothing, 2 witnesses had verified I was being assaulted through the window of my vehicle.

In Florida you can not be sued by someone you shoot under either stand your ground, or castle law if it was a justified shooting.
 
kel-tec p32/ never needed more here in pa. in new mexico i carried a ruger security six 357/ bought and kept locally out there.
 
To go out alone and unarmed is (IMO)a stupid thing to do ! And to be unaware of your surroundings CONSTANTLY is also VERY STUPID ! Be smart and come back safe !
If you really believe your hobby requires walking blindly into a firefight - my advice is to find another hobby or stay home! :)

- Geowizard
 
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It's not the hobby it's society. You can be perfectly minding your own business and some Asswipe can try to assult you. It happened to me decades ago in an environment that I would have never thought of as dangerous or even marginal. My entire family was threatened and I felt helpless. Needless to say I've been armed ever since & thankfully never have come close to needing it. If I do well, I'll be ready this time.
 
It's not the hobby it's society. You can be perfectly minding your own business and some Asswipe can try to assult you. It happened to me decades ago in an environment that I would have never thought of as dangerous or even marginal. My entire family was threatened and I felt helpless. Needless to say I've been armed ever since & thankfully never have come close to needing it. If I do well, I'll be ready this time.
When I'm in AZ, I do a lot of exploring of old mines and trails near the Mexican border. During the Biden years, the cartel and their drug mules were pretty active in the area. I had a sidearm and either a 9mm or 5.56 AR subgun.

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Idahoan45,

If there's ever a conflict. please remember. I'm on your side. Even if you're wrong! :icon_salut:

I moved to Southern AZ in 2008 and live 50 miles from the border. I began prospecting here 40 years ago.

Before I moved here, my job was flying a Cessna 207 hauling priority meds and bank bags from Sky Harbor airport in Phoenix on a route that ended in Douglas. You can throw a rock from Douglas "Muni" Airport into Mexico! Arriving in Douglas around 8 am each day, I would normally sit around the airport until 5 pm, load up freight and bank bags and head back up the route to Phoenix. It was a boring day. I noticed one time while flying over the Chiricahua Mountains, a very large mine tailing pile. It was the Hilltop mine. This mine, back in the day, had a town around it and had its own Post Office. The mine has 5 miles of underground workings on four levels. I had a new DAY job, prospecting the Hilltop Mine! The county sheriff had the Hilltop mine claimed for years and coincidentally dropped his mining claims just before I began prospecting there! :)

I claimed up the mine and began mapping the underground workings. I never carried. At that point in history, if you saw someone out in the forest on foot, they needed your help in most cases. The few single illegals were not an issue. They would appear with an empty water jug. They didn't speak, just motioned with the jug showing that it was empty.

As usual, the locals considered me an invader! Ranchers and miners/prospectors are always in conflict. Ranchers would let the air out of a tire on my vehicle when I was out in the hills. Ranchers continually scouted out "their" grazing ground on horseback looking for cattle rustlers and prospectors (same thing to them)! I would play cat and mouse and evade detection. I wasn't looking for a two or three on one fight with ranchers on horseback!

- Geowizard
 
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Cowboys and Prospectors;

No, never pull leather on multiple cowboys on horseback when you are on foot.

We don't know what "they" are packing for heat.
I would assume the worst case, pump action shotguns with double-aught magnum buckshot payloads.


They have home field advantage!

No time for psychoanalysis. I assume they have a "bad attitude".

Last point, there are too many empty mine shafts in the area.

I surrender! :)

- Geowizard
 
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When I'm in AZ, I do a lot of exploring of old mines and trails near the Mexican border. During the Biden years, the cartel and their drug mules were pretty active in the area. I had a sidearm and either a 9mm or 5.56 AR subgun.

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One lesson to learn that I might share on the subject of Mexican Cartels.

"Don' take on the Cartel."

My experience is based on the experiences of others that never walked away from their experience with any Cartel. The only exception I know of was not agressive. He was beaten and left for dead in the mountains in the summer without water. He staggered into town and was flown by medivac to Tucson. He was treated, suffered for a month and died.

You are now prepared. :icon_salut:

- Geowizard
 
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It's not the hobby it's society. You can be perfectly minding your own business and some Asswipe can try to assult you. It happened to me decades ago in an environment that I would have never thought of as dangerous or even marginal. My entire family was threatened and I felt helpless. Needless to say I've been armed ever since & thankfully never have come close to needing it. If I do well, I'll be ready this time.
I'm on your side, brother!

Our society is burdened by psycopaths with civil rights that should be locked up in a treatment center. Because they have rights, they can walk out the door.
I encourage others to stay out of "harms way".

Your post says, "I'll be ready this time." Is that a bluff? or... are you ready to pull leather and shoot to kill?

A threat does not warrant "shoot to kill". If you pull, an otherwise idle agressor will probably lead you to having to play judge, jury and executioner. You may unwittingly become a victim of a court system cocked and loaded to quell the "rambo prospector" that over-reacted.

No easy answers here.

- Geowizard
 
I'm on your side, brother!

Our society is burdened by psycopaths with civil rights that should be locked up in a treatment center. Because they have rights, they can walk out the door.
I encourage others to stay out of "harms way".

Your post says, "I'll be ready this time." Is that a bluff? or... are you ready to pull leather and shoot to kill?

A threat does not warrant "shoot to kill". If you pull, an otherwise idle agressor will probably lead you to having to play judge, jury and executioner. You may unwittingly become a victim of a court system cocked and loaded to quell the "rambo prospector" that over-reacted.

No easy answers here.

- Geowizard
I'm not a hot head or trouble maker. I do not frequent sketchy places or associate with bad people of questionable character. So if something happens that makes me feel I need to draw my weapon it will be a life threatening situation for me. I will not hesitate for a second.
 
If you really believe your hobby requires walking blindly into a firefight - my advice is to find another hobby or stay home! :)

- Geowizard
My hobby of 40+ years should NOT require me to walk blindly into a "firefight", or any other type of trouble to where I must become a "victim. I am out detecting with no malice toward anyone. Never had to give a thought for many years to even think of needing to carry. Not so much anymore. There are a lot of morons running around loose out there with out supervision we might say. I am in my 70's, I know I can be easy prey?, but then again we ALL can be easy prey. When I go detecting in parks and or the woods, I will not be a victim, I will not give up my detector or wallet or whatever, and I will not give up my hobby because I must be aware of "them", perhaps they should be more aware of me by thinking twice. I carry a 38 S&W snubby, in my carry pouch with the handle grip exposed. There have been a couple of times I was mighty glad I had it with me. Perhaps "They" should give up the possibility of walking into an armed citizen while having bad intent on their minds. I am so weary with the "many" having to bow to the few. I have carried 44mag when I had a claim, (bear), but never encounter one. When I started that short period of life, an old guy told me that a .357 should do you ok with cougars and such, but never under estimate a bear, better to be over gunned that under gunned. Now, I do not always carry all day everywhere, it all depends on what I am doing and where. For many years after my discharge, I did not shoot or own a firearm, Today? I like revolvers, very forgiving, pull the trigger, they fire. Enough from me.
 
My hobby of 40+ years should NOT require me to walk blindly into a "firefight", or any other type of trouble to where I must become a "victim. I am out detecting with no malice toward anyone. Never had to give a thought for many years to even think of needing to carry. Not so much anymore. There are a lot of morons running around loose out there with out supervision we might say. I am in my 70's, I know I can be easy prey?, but then again we ALL can be easy prey. When I go detecting in parks and or the woods, I will not be a victim, I will not give up my detector or wallet or whatever, and I will not give up my hobby because I must be aware of "them", perhaps they should be more aware of me by thinking twice. I carry a 38 S&W snubby, in my carry pouch with the handle grip exposed. There have been a couple of times I was mighty glad I had it with me. Perhaps "They" should give up the possibility of walking into an armed citizen while having bad intent on their minds. I am so weary with the "many" having to bow to the few. I have carried 44mag when I had a claim, (bear), but never encounter one. When I started that short period of life, an old guy told me that a .357 should do you ok with cougars and such, but never under estimate a bear, better to be over gunned that under gunned. Now, I do not always carry all day everywhere, it all depends on what I am doing and where. For many years after my discharge, I did not shoot or own a firearm, Today? I like revolvers, very forgiving, pull the trigger, they fire. Enough from me.
As a born and raised Oregonian and having the chance on occasion to travel over and through Grants Pass, I could smell GOLD in the air! Very well composed piece. Thank you. You deserve a :goldtrophy:

Keep up the great work, Sir!

- Geowizard
 
I'm not a hot head or trouble maker. I do not frequent sketchy places or associate with bad people of questionable character. So if something happens that makes me feel I need to draw my weapon it will be a life threatening situation for me. I will not hesitate for a second.
That's right and Don't blink!

- Geowizard
 
I have twice branished my firearms, once while being attack at a stoplight in downtown Orlando, the other was while metal detecting Daytona Beach at night.

I know 3 people who were robbed while detecting, 2 detecting Miami area beaches and third at Daytona Beach, he ended up in hospital with concussion.

I never leave my house unarmed....
Im with you. Always carry. Most time is Glock 19, But have others to choose from
 
The shiny metal on my hip usually has a few sips of Lagavulin inside...🥃
 

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