Who Collects Wine Bottles?

[Road Dog]

Thanks Harry

 

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[Bass]

Hey, those are nice finds. Don't see that age everyday at a flea market

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[Road Dog]

Thanks, we have some people that hit the auctions in the Northeast and bring it down here to sell.

 

[ynpto804]

Harry can you help me with this one? It's for sale in a shop close to me I just don't know much about it? Also what would be a fair price if you don't mind. Thanks!

 

[Harry Pristis]

Harry can you help me with this one? It's for sale in a shop close to me I just don't know much about it? Also what would be a fair price if you don't mind. Thanks!

This appears to be an Italian wine (though I cannot make out the embossing on the seal). I don't know much about Italian wine bottles, but I think they are not eagerly collected. I believe that this one is TOC20 or even later. Market value is low.

 

[ynpto804]

Thanks Harry!

 

[Harry Pristis]

Time to revive this classic thread. I'm confident that more interesting wine bottles have been acquired since the last post here. Show us.

German, sheared lip, early 1800s​

 

[RelicDude]

Wow that is gorgeous piece Harry I've never seen anything like it.

 

[Bass]

How did you come across that Harry? Great looking piece.

 

[Harry Pristis]

How did you come across that Harry? Great looking piece.

Thank you for the kind words. I, too, like this bottle. I hand-carried it back here from a trip to France (Alsace) for a fossil show. Fossils over, bottles back. This is not an uncommon form in the early 1800s of France and Germany, as I read. The corregated string marks it as Germany-made.

These storage bottles were protected in use by a plaited fiber jacket. Here's a French version of this bottle (note the smooth string) with the jacket.

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[Harry Pristis]

Here's an early one . . . from the mid-1700s. Made in Western Europe, recovered in Belgium. Notice the lead seal around the lip string. No doubt, the bottle once contained a vintage wine or brandy.

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[Bass]

Harry, any idea what the purpose of the vertical lines were for on the collar of this one?

 

[Harry Pristis]

Harry, any idea what the purpose of the vertical lines were for on the collar of this one?View attachment 1149782

I can't think of a good, practical reason for the corregations on the string. However, traditions in glass-making are enduring, passed on gaffer-to-apprentice. It simply might have been a mark of a regional tradition of glass-blowing.

 

[unclemac]

could it have to do with how the string was applied?

 

[Harry Pristis]

could it have to do with how the string was applied?

Early French glass-blowers may have applied/tooled a string -- if it was tooled at all -- into a variety of shapes, but apparently not with a corregated finish.

There must have been a reason - though not necessarily a utilitarian purpose - to make and use a corregated tool (perhaps a toothed wheel). The corregated lip string may have been an identifier/trademark for a single glass-house in Southern Germany . . . I just don't know. "Tradition" seems to cover the possibilities.

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The third and fourth images above are of similar, globular bottles of Alsation origin. The third seems to be deliberated flattened, but the fourth example is not tooled at all.

 

[Harry Pristis]

You may dig or see for sale one of these Italian wine bottles. It may have this distinctive lip finish. This one has a smooth base. The bottle was turned in the mold before the seal was applied. I think it date to around TOC20 or even a bit later.

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[MuckyBottles]

I run across a few while digging, they are usually slicks, I just leave them for the beachcomber

 

[Harry Pristis]

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How about some more wine bottles! I know you've got 'em. Put two or three on a window sill and snap a pic. Good for the forum; good for your e-skills; good for your records, too.

 

[Harry Pristis]

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I continue to think of these Dyottville bottles as whiskey containers; but, Dyott sold them as "wine bottles."