Wilderness areas?

[Goldbear]

The BLM site says no mining allowed, yet on two different websites I have seen these plastic sluices promoted as legal in wilderness areas. So whats the truth? Am I taking the BLM site wrong?

 

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[Hoser John]

Gas powered contrivences are the wilderness bane. What you can do is closely regulated by the forest king who runs that particuliar area. In some ya can't do nuttn' and others sluice,pan and detect. Check with the locals BUT get everything in writing and keep in a backpak with ya as forest cops don't know rules and regs and have been running folks off lately especially in the tahoe area-John

 

[Goldbear]

Well it should be listed or posted so as not to be even debateable as whether it is legal. How can you get it in writing that it is ok when it truely might be but they think it is not and they are in the wrong? I know mechanicals or even so much as a wheel is not allowed so when I see them posting in their advertising legal in wilderness areas, that should be obviously stated in some rule. If a battery operated metal detector is not legal than neither should be flashlights or a GPS. I just figured digging in a stream was probably illegal, but then again maybe its not

 

[Goldbear]

Well it is quite clear in the 1964 act that it is legal. Anyone know of newer rules?

http://www.wilderness.net/index.cfm?fuse=nwps&sec=legisact

 

[Hoser John]

Millions a new ones--just google Forest Service CFRs and be prepared to get ill-don't shoot the messenger please-John

 

[russau]

i agree with Hoser! knowing the rules/laws and haveing a copy of the pertanant ones will help you when the unknowing green cops/wacoenviromentalists want to stop you when you are perfectly legal. if stoped by law enforcement,ask for him/her to specifically write down the law your supposedly violating,esspeccialy if youve been cited. this will help you if you have to appear and youll know what to study for your defense.otherwise it may come down to "your" misunderstanding of the law according to the unknowing green cop!

 

[Hoser John]

MORNING RUSSA-YA'ALL STILL DRY IN MISERY John

 

[Goldbear]

You know those laws sound like they are written up to basically leave to the discretion of the manager in charge of the area. I am sure many tell friends and family yes and others no. They might as well start putting swastikas on their uniforms.

No shootin messengers here hoser. Thanks.

 

[63bkpkr]

Watchword of the day, Be Polite to the officer! 63bkpkr

 

[russau]

MORNING RUSSA-YA'ALL STILL DRY IN MISERY John

no John, it comes and goes. waiting for the flooding to go down in N.Indiana so i can get my dredge wet!

 

[63bkpkr]

A lot of us are waiting for the flooding/high water to go down, I sure am here in NorCal..........63bkpkr

 

[PROSPECTORMIKEL]

WE FEAL YOUR PAIN...
NW ARKANSAS IS CAUGHT UP ON RAIN TILL ABOUT CHRISTMAS!!
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MY DAD HAD TO BUY A BOAT TO GET TO HIS BOATDOCK.

BRIGHT SIDE.... FLOODS BRING OUT A LITTLE MORE GOLD IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY!

 

[BuenSomeritano]

i agree with Hoser! knowing the rules/laws and haveing a copy of the pertanant ones will help you when the unknowing green cops/wacoenviromentalists want to stop you when you are perfectly legal. if stoped by law enforcement,ask for him/her to specifically write down the law your supposedly violating,esspeccialy if youve been cited. this will help you if you have to appear and youll know what to study for your defense.otherwise it may come down to "your" misunderstanding of the law according to the unknowing green cop!

Stop confusing legitimate environmentalists with corrupt authoritarian Dems and GOPs and criminal cartels occupying government seats and committing treason against the constitution under the guise of environmentalism. THINK HARDER.

 

[Capt Nemo]

Environmentalist = You cannot touch or use anything in the environment.

Conservationist = The environment is there for you to use without totally destroying it.

 

[seafox]

remember ann rayn's writting where the beaurocrat explains that the purpose of the law is not to be simple so people can follow the law but to be complicated so the goverment can control the people