At pro depth issues

[littlewheaty]

Yeah thats why we can only use a screw driver here in Spokane. But I can now do open heart surgery with a screw driver I got so good with it. We can only use a screw driver with a 3/8" tip. You can take a 12" screw driver and grind the tip into 3/8" width.

That sounds interesting and i might give it a try. Is there a special screwdriver you use so you dont damage the coins?

 

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[david680]

That sounds interesting and i might give it a try. Is there a special screwdriver you use so you dont damage the coins?

Round off the edges on the tip. Probe gently.

 

[david680]

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/today-s-finds/366784-pro-digging-super-deep-big-silver-s-before-cop-s-kick-me-live-dig-s-video-2.html

This is the link to the original video. I have to agree with WHADIFIND about digging plugs, smaller is not definitely better. On the other hand, I haven't ever seen anyone dig one that size before either. Perception dictates reality.

 

[littlewheaty]

Thanks for the tip david! I was thinking you would to use brass or plastic probe. Something softer than silver. I am definitely going to try this method this spring. I think it might help me gain more permissions for a yards, instead of telling homeowners i cut plug. I think they still get the image of holes when i tell them that i think.

 

[RobRieman]

I would say he removed about 600 square feet of sod with the amount of holes he dug. Maybe he's a landscaper at his full time job?

 

[david680]

Thanks for the tip david! I was thinking you would to use brass or plastic probe. Something softer than silver. I am definitely going to try this method this spring. I think it might help me gain more permissions for a yards, instead of telling homeowners i cut plug. I think they still get the image of holes when i tell them that i think.

Yes, brass would be better, and I think they used to make ceramic ones. I generally just use a probe in clad areas. That can surprise you as I popped a cut quarter of a 1797 8 Reales from about a inch last year. Glad I was probing gently there.

 

[littlewheaty]

Yes, brass would be better, and I think they used to make ceramic ones. I generally just use a probe in clad areas. That can surprise you as I popped a cut quarter of a 1797 8 Reales from about a inch last year. Glad I was probing gently there.

Yeah i definitely see how that would surprise ya. Maybe i better go to the park and try it on some cald before i think about trying it in a old yard.

 

[MackDog]

That sounds interesting and i might give it a try. Is there a special screwdriver you use so you dont damage the coins?

Yes round the point but dig shallow of your target, then find the target with the pin pointer, dig along side of it and pry it up from under it. Make sure to take a bit of dirt when you pry up

 

[david680]

Yeah, thinking about a brass probe, I think the problem there would be keeping it straight, as when popping coins from 3-4 inches down, I can be putting a fair bit of pressure on a screwdriver. Don't think brass would hold up.

 

[littlewheaty]

Hey david, didnt think of that. Im going to the detector shop monday and going to take a look at their probes to kinda get an idea whats out there.

 

[littlewheaty]

Yes round the point but dig shallow of your target, then find the target with the pin pointer, dig along side of it and pry it up from under it. Make sure to take a bit of dirt when you pry up

Thanks for the step by step

 

[MackDog]

Yeah, thinking about a brass probe, I think the problem there would be keeping it straight, as when popping coins from 3-4 inches down, I can be putting a fair bit of pressure on a screwdriver. Don't think brass would hold up.

If your good with your detector and can get depth and pinpoint correct, then use a pin pointer to locate it. Hopefully you do use a pinpointer

 

[thebirdflu]

This is an interested thread and I'm glad littlewheaty started it. I'm having the exact same issues he described and I'm also from Missouri. I auto GB when I start each hunt and it sets anywhere from 82 to 91. I'm only getting 4-5 inches of depth. The main reasons I got the AT Pro were because of ground balancing and more depth. After reading through the thread I will need to go do some tests on my machine to see if I can improve it or to determine if it's possibly defective.

 

[littlewheaty]

This is an interested thread and I'm glad littlewheaty started it. I'm having the exact same issues he described and I'm also from Missouri. I auto GB when I start each hunt and it sets anywhere from 82 to 91. I'm only getting 4-5 inches of depth. The main reasons I got the AT Pro were because of ground balancing and more depth. After reading through the thread I will need to go do some tests on my machine to see if I can improve it or to determine if it's possibly defective.

Hello birdflu! I have questions for you lol! What part of the state are you in and where do you typically hunt? We seem to be pretty close in numbers on the ground balance, but I still think its high. Going to call garrett for more info on that. Also curious what kind of test you do and what your results are?

 

[gleaner1]

Im still pretty new to this hobby so maybe theirs something im missing. I live in missouri and I think we have neutral soil here. I have been hunting my grandparents yard for a few months now trying to learn my machine. They have soil like you have never seen. Very black, fluffy and cant really dig a plug with out it falling apart. They also have lots of iron in the yard. Their house was built in 1900 and the neighborhood is going threw some changes. Condos are getting built all around it. Which makes me wonder if im not getting emi interference. I get a ground balance of 88 and im not sure but that seems high for here. I have found around two hundred pennys in the yard oldest being a 1918 none of them being over 4 inches in depth. The deepest penny's rang in like a pull tabs. I found some tokens,clad, lots of pull tabs, some jewelry and other little crap. Nothing being over four inches. So im starting to think all these penny's wheres the silver? Im thinking deeper then four inches. Since i had some penny's ring in like pull tabs jumping all over the place, i think maybe ill try and dig some iffy signals that sound deep jumping around. First couple iffy signal was nails. Then i came across an iffy signal that was a silver Washington being only 5 and half inches deep and sounded just like iron. I would think at six inches it should be blowing my ears out. It would take a long time to dig all the iron signals in the yard and just cant see doing that. I have hunted a couple parks and a newer home site and dont recall anything over 4 inches and not sure what the ground balance was. I hunt in pro zero with no disc. I have done air test and seems to be fine in the ai So I guess what im asking is their something im missing? What should the ground balance number be around here in missouri? How do i rule out emi interference and would emi interference make me lose depth? Or should i just send the unit to garrett and let them take a look? Any help would be great. Thanks

First question: Is their something im missing? Yes, we all miss something, so the minelab guys can get it.
Second question: What should the ground balance number be around here in missouri? We dont know, just gb it and get er done it takes three seconds.
Third question: How do i rule out emi interference and would emi interference make me lose depth? Well, you are asking two questions in one sentence so I will give you two answers: The atpr does not react to emi unless you are standing under high KV power lines. And....No, emi will not cause you to lose significant depth.
Fourth question: Should i send the unit to garrett and let them take a look? I will answer your question with a question: A look at what?

 

[Kodiak43351]

First question: Is their something im missing? Yes, we all miss something, so the minelab guys can get it.
Second question: What should the ground balance number be around here in missouri? We dont know, just gb it and get er done it takes three seconds.
Third question: How do i rule out emi interference and would emi interference make me lose depth? Well, you are asking two questions in one sentence so I will give you two answers: The atpr does not react to emi unless you are standing under high KV power lines. And....No, emi will not cause you to lose significant depth.
Fourth question: Should i send the unit to garrett and let them take a look? I will answer your question with a question: A look at what?

Always a smart a** the guy was just asking some questions. We were trying to help him. I think he should send it in and have Garrett test it and see if it's working correctly. He should be getting better depth but we are not there to compare. Good luck to the op and let us know if you get it figured out. I personally didn't have a problem with the pro on depth and is great in trashy sites with the small coil. I recently bought the at gold for the threshold based all metal mode for field hunting to punch a bit deeper. The pro hits all my targets in test garden and I have a dime at about nine inches. It's hard to hear but it gets it. The gold nails same target easy in all metal and gets it in disc one but not disc 2.

 

[gleaner1]

Its hard to answer difficult questions from the noobs, and I am always here to help. Just read my reply, it's not facetious, its the truth Kodiak. How many hours you gots on a tecter? I got twenty three years on cz's and four plus on atpro. I love atpro. Stick that in your fuse box pal.

 

[Kodiak43351]

I have plenty but almost every post you make is like that. Why? Doesn't help anybody. You were new once or were you born detecting. I don't care how much exp you have. Put that in your fuse box!

 

[gleaner1]

OK kodiak, but the fact remains, there is no good answer to the op's questions, because he is a complete nooble. Ok, so be it. Just remember, my reply is not facetious, it's just not able to be understood, by the noobs that post such nonsense. It's not rocket science. There is nothing wrong with the ops machine and he does not need to send it in to "take a look". The op has to bite the bullet and read the owners manual AND PUT THE HOURS IN, just like all of us did. Tnet wont help him. Mkay?

 

[TheGoldProspector]

OK kodiak, but the fact remains, there is no good answer to the op's questions, because he is a complete nooble. Ok, so be it. Just remember, my reply is not facetious, it's just not able to be understood, by the noobs that post such nonsense. It's not rocket science. There is nothing wrong with the ops machine and he does not need to send it in to "take a look". The op has to bite the bullet and read the owners manual just like all of us. Tnet wont help him. Mkay?

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