1652 PINE TREE SHILLING

[steelheadwill]

Hi Everyone,
Been a while since I got any coins,
Got 3 Silvers and 2 Coppers today
I finally got my Pine Tree Shilling Looks to be a Noe-1 Large Planchet
correct size and weight, 28mm X 4.4 Grams.
A solid coin with some encrustation.
note scratch on obverse and clean X on reverse, good metal right there.
this example is a late stage as shown by severe die cracking around date,
and is close to the specified original weight and diameter, no clipping!
The site below is the most comprehensive I've found about Mass Silver,
follow to section contents for more info on the series.
Pine Tree Coinage
Also got my first Barber quarter and an SLQ,
2 LCs, one toast and a '47 with a really nice strike, even full of dirt, she's looking good...
(pardon the soap bubbles)
Thanks for looking and HH All !! Herbie.

 

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[testing123]

Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN Herbie. Is there anything left on your want list?

 

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[MR Senior L4S]

Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

Beauty pcs. of history ( sorry is grinspan build on it , post after remove , looks like will come out NICE )

 

[steelheadwill]

Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

Hi All,
just got home, logged on, and see a Lot of new replies, thanks everyone!
I wish I could reply to all of you, I'll comment on the two most important issues.
The Find: got word from an local 'old timer' that a certain area of a cove that I search on a tidal creek in NH (never this particular area) was used as as swimming & picnic area when he was a child, Got permission from the property owner to scan the saltmarsh areas above the waterline,
So, yesterday at 6:30 am, half hour after lowtide I stated searching in the shallow water.
This is where I found the toasted silvers & copper, as the tide advanced, I moved inshore, and not making any more finds, decided to head north to a Fine Cellarhole that usually gives up some goodies.
Speed scanning as I walk back to my truck, I get a signal, (same scenario when I got my 4 Reale Cob)
Recover what looks like a lead token, (I'm hunting in two tone, and didn't look at the readout)
I put it in my pocket with my other coins, then shop at the market for an hour, & drive 35 miles to the cellarhole site.
before starting the 3/4 mile walk, I empty my pockets and give the 'Token' a rinse.
Lo and behold, I see the tree clearly, Whoa, stop, jaw drop.
turn it over, see the X... Heart pounding, I pull out my phone, snap a quick pic & send it off to mike at www.woodlanddetectors.com, I marvel at it a little more, then wrap it in a piece of wet paper & head off to find some more goodies, (must be my lucky day, right!), up there is where I got the '47 LC,
didn't spend much time hunting there, I wanted to get home for some research on the Tree
Below is a pic from my return trip today of the remains of the hole where it was dug,
in all those rocks, I'm really lucky it didn't get damaged more than it did
Thanks VERY much for that info on NCS performance on that Cent, I read the entire thread.
I was going to give them my $40 member fee tonight in order to start my submission process.
(I planned on sending them My 1620s 4Reale, 1640s 400 Reis, 1780 Gold Ducat, and this coin)
that is all on hold now. does anyone have contact info for the shipwreck coin people?
I'd appreciate some feedback from people who have had good results with a 'Coin Restorer'.
Neil, those specs are in Grains, they do make it confusing just using a 'G', 71 grains is listed as decreed weight for this coin, about 4.5 grams, this coin weighs a little more, one reason why I think it is a solid piece coated with a sand encrustation, it's almost perfectly round shape and full weight have me hoping it's not heavily clipped, that scratch showing the silver, and the clear silver of the 'X' give me great hope that it is mostly intact.
For the immediate future, the coin sets in a vial of distilled water, I love it just the way it is.
until I am convinced that I have found a good restorer, that's where it will stay.
(maybe if I carefully rub some of that sand off...... JUST KIDDING).
Longest post I ever wrote.. thanks again everyone! This find is proof that anyone can make great finds, I've only got 2 years 11 months at this detecting thing, (can't call it a hobby, it's SO much more than that).
Keep digging everyone, there's plenty of treasure still out there! Thanks, Herbie.

 

[oldsalty19]

Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

Excellent, excellent........HH

 

[cz70pro]

Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

Sweet! Now go find a Birch cent,A 1792 Half Disme,and a few 1790's eagles. Keep us posted!

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

Congratulations on making the BANNER yet again with an amazing find Herbie!
That 1847 LC is in really amazing condition for a copper!

Bet you can hardly wait for the ground to thaw so you can get back hunting on dry land eh!
Must be pretty cold hunting in the ocean!

Take care bud,
Dave

 

[bookfisher]

Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

Incredible find! The Holy Grail of American Metal Detecting!

 

[gleaner1]

Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

Delightful banner not to be seen again for a long, long time.

 

[l.cutler]

Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

Nice, Pine tree shillings are the iconic early American coin. Did you check it with your detector after you found it to see what it ID's it as?

 

[steelheadwill]

Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

Nice, Pine tree shillings are the iconic early American coin. Did you check it with your detector after you found it to see what it ID's it as?

Thanks again!
Dave, the water is a bit chilly, I'm only going knee deep so it's bearable.
L.cutler, my etrac reads it as a thin silver, Which it is, like a lot of early Precious Metal coins. (this one's about the size of a quarter, and only about 4 grams)
one swing will give a 10-32 another will give 11-32, and so on .
I don't know about anyone elses etrac, but only rarely will mine give exactly the same readings for an object, swing speed, distance, & angle all throw the #s off a digit or two
She's a rusty crusty saltwater silver of which I've found many, seems the yellow clay under those rocks is what gives the rusty color tone.
Silver from the mud is black (and toasted)
I'm searching for info on other coin restorers today.
HH All

 

[Jersey Hunter]

Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

Definitely Banner, You got my vote as well. Congrats, can't wait until I make that kind of find.

 

[mikusek]

Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

Wow! That Liberty cent is a beauty!

 

[matt092079]

Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

Is the pine tree coin copper or silver?

 

[steelheadwill]

Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

Is the pine tree coin copper or silver?

According to records of the coins minting, they are .925 Silver

 

[surfnturf]

Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

Oh...................... and I found a FRICKING PINE TREE!!!!!!! That is so out of control!! I would be Vomiting!!!!! Wicked pissa sick!!!
Thats on the gotta find list if you live in N.E.!!!!!

Congrats!!! Oh.... I'm so jealouse

SnT

 

[JOE-DIRTDIGGER]

Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

BANNER FIND

 

[creeper71]

Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

The cleaned Pine tree is that yours after cleaning or a pic of one to show what they look like?

 

[creeper71]

Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

I was just looking at the 1847 copper.. .I have a question is the water around the nose or is it a double die?? I swear I see 2 foreheads 2 noses an part of the 2nd chin...

 

[steelheadwill]

Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

Thanks all!
Creeper, let me get that copper out for a closer look,
appreciate the heads up!
No outlaw, I stated that the last pic is just an example.
It will never look like that

 

[creeper71]

Re: Been a While, Got some coins! Pine Tree

Thanks all!
Creeper, let me get that copper out for a closer look,
appreciate the heads up!
No outlaw, I stated that the last pic is just an example.
It will never look like that

I missed the post where u stated it was an example..sorry for asking..I assumed it was an example but I thought I would asked just to be sure... Yeah let me know about that Copper please