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Well, where do I begin. It's late in the 4th quarter, time running out, snow storm is on its way, season coming to a close. Figured I'd ask the head of the household(my girl) if she minded if I hit my hot spot for a couple of hours. With her permission I headed out in the light rain. last big find that blew me away at this site was teh (banner) 1737 Spanish Pistareen. Figured I couldn't top that one. I headed to an area, that I had skimmed over in the past. Was digging a lot of pull tabs and clad. Then hit an iron patch. Found a huge half horseshoe, and a few other horse type iron artifacts, always a good sign. Then Dug a 1895 IH. A few more pull tabs and soda caps, then another IH 1897. Started to rain a bit more and I was a muddy mess. Dug a rusty nail and said to myself, I can't go out this way. Then got a 2" .5 cent, Ring signal. Dug the plug expecting to see the silver looking pull tab and there it was, a large copper. Couldn't believe my eyes. Stuck it in my prescription plastic tube(for special artifacts) and called it a rap. Figuring it was a British King George halfpenny, I was baffled when I began to see a wreath after cleaning the dirt away. Put in on "what is it" and low and behold "hammered" posted the ID.

Scottish, 1692 William II and Mary II (1689-1694), Copper Bawbee, laureate draped bust left, rev., crowned thistle, NEMO•ME•IMPUNE•LACESSET•1692 :o
I just can't believe it.
I first want to thank my girl, because without her patience I would not have been out to the site this morning.
Second, I want to thank my girl again for the patience since I have been home working on getting the ID while on the phone with her father. At one point I had two friends on two different phones at the same time.
Fourth, I want to thank HAMMERED, for putting an ID and meaning behind this very special coin. I can't wait to research the history of this coin to imagine how it could have made its way to Mass.
Thanks you all for looking. :headbang:
 

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Re: 1697, William II and Mary II, Copper Bawbee.

A large copper came in as a Pulltab at 2 inches... :icon_scratch: Thats odd... :dontknow:

Cool fnds !! :icon_thumleft: :headbang:

Keep @ it and HH !! :D ;D
 
Re: 1697, William II and Mary II, Copper Bawbee.

That is an amazing find!!! Not many people have broken into the 1600's here in the States.

Congratulations, that would make my year!
 
Re: 1697, William II and Mary II, Copper Bawbee.

Nice find, one was posted earlier this year I believe, it was found near me in Salem County by Pigeonman I believe his name was. I do believe your date is incorrect, 1692 is what it looks like and that would match the reign period, however, the wreath looks different than that one in the photo you are showing. :dontknow:

Don
 
Re: 1697, William II and Mary II, Copper Bawbee.

thats an intresting coin ive never seeen it before :icon_thumright:
 
Re: 1697, William II and Mary II, Copper Bawbee.

Don in SJ said:
Nice find, one was posted earlier this year I believe, it was found near me in Salem County by Pigeonman I believe his name was. I do believe your date is incorrect, 1692 is what it looks like and that would match the reign period, however, the wreath looks different than that one in the photo you are showing. :dontknow:

Don
It doe's look slightly different :P the wreath is a bit narrower, this however looks about the same :)

SS
 

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Re: 1697, William II and Mary II, Copper Bawbee.

Nice oldie!
 
Re: 1697, William II and Mary II, Copper Bawbee.

I agree with Don in NJ that the date on this coin is 1692 and the thistle seems to be larger than the William II and Mary II. :icon_scratch: So what do you think this coin is?
 
Re: 1697, William II and Mary II, Copper Bawbee.

MUD(S.W.A.T) said:
A large copper came in as a Pulltab at 2 inches... :icon_scratch: Thats odd... :dontknow:
Cool fnds !! :icon_thumleft: :headbang:
Keep @ it and HH !! :D ;D
Correction, I believe it came up as .5 Cents,RING.
 
Re: 1697, William II and Mary II, Copper Bawbee.

I still haven't broke into the 1600's. This is a great find if you ask me and worthy of a double thumbs up. :icon_thumright: :icon_thumleft:
Chris
 
Re: 1697, William II and Mary II, Copper Bawbee.

4-H said:
Nice find. :)
Colonial Copper Zeus said:
I still haven't broke into the 1600's. This is a great find if you ask me and worthy of a double thumbs up. :icon_thumright: :icon_thumleft:
Chris
Thank you. :icon_thumleft:
 

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Re: 1697, William II and Mary II, Copper Bawbee.

This does seem more like the coin I found. Anyone else agree? Great job Silver Searcher. :notworthy:
Thank you.
 
Re: 1697, William II and Mary II, Copper Bawbee.

After having researched this some more, and learning about all the different varieties of Bawbees and bodles, it was interesting to learn that Bawbees have a crown above the thistle on the reverse and Bodles have no bust but the crown is on the obverse. This was done because the Bodle or twopence was considered to base a coin for the Kings head to appear on. Both types of coins were minted at several mints until 1697 and continued to be used well into the 1800s as halfpennies.
It would be of some help if you could post a photo with something to judge scale by. Needless to say I still think it is a Bawbee, but I am also more than happy to learn something new ;D.

hammered
 
Re: 1697, William II and Mary II, Copper Bawbee.

Gary, I hope this snow doesn't amount to more than a dusting. Because I can't wait to see what you find next. You are certainly getting closer and closer to the 'tree coin' that every hunter dreams of, especially here in Massachusetts.

Congrats on the VERY old copper.

Wasn't it 70 degrees 48 hours ago? Gotta love New England !!!

Brian in MA
 
Re: 1697, William II and Mary II, Copper Bawbee.

Congrats on breaking into the 1600's and if you don't get out anymore then your year is still complete... :headbang:
 
Re: 1697, William II and Mary II, Copper Bawbee.

OMG that is freakin priceless! I'd put that up right with any "tree" shilling!....Man that site you have is what we all dream of!
 
Re: 1697, William II and Mary II, Copper Bawbee.

yes,i did find one here in Salem Co back in the spring,quite a find for these neck of the woods.
 

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