1795 Silver Button found with Hogge

[Digginitrtb2]

Button was found yesterday. Have been a member as "digginitrtb" for years. Had to change to digginitrtb2., as I forgot password.LOL. As in hogge posting..... help is needed on this. We think it has something to do with Freemasons. Nice early relic.

 

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[Ahab8]

It may have something to do with it being a new member account or maybe its just not as bannerworthy as a walker spill. Id love to dig both but good early finds sometimes get overlooked because so many members just dont have access to them

It's all about perspective. People tend to pay attention to what they know and are familiar with....but it breaks my heart every time an incredible early piece doesnt get the respect or attention it deserves.

 

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[hogge]

DigginitRTB has been a member for a while. There was an issue of not remembering password so a new acct. was created. Mods have been notified. Button is quite unique. Trying to get more info. HH. HOGGE

 

[Digginitrtb2]

Help

Still looking for help with this 1795 button Be great to know it's origin. Thanks

 

[BuckleBoy]

Hello hogge,

There WERE fraternal organizations around well before 1795. So when your friend wrote "Frat Button" he may well have meant "FRATERNAL button" not "Fraternity button"

Fraternal Order button is my guess as well. Anything with Greek letters was tied to a secret/fraternal society most likely.

IMO the scrollwork below the Greek letters is NOT the caduceus--not any more so than the countless identical examples which appeared on stoneware jugs from the early to mid 1800s. It's simply a scrollwork decoration IMO.

Regards,

Buck

 

[CRUSADER]

Hello hogge,

There WERE fraternal organizations around well before 1795. So when your friend wrote "Frat Button" he may well have meant "FRATERNAL button" not "Fraternity button"

Fraternal Order button is my guess as well. Anything with Greek letters was tied to a secret/fraternal society most likely.

IMO the scrollwork below the Greek letters is NOT the caduceus--not any more so than the countless identical examples which appeared on stoneware jugs from the early to mid 1800s. It's simply a scrollwork decoration IMO.

Regards,

Buck

I agree, I thought that a long time ago, but you put it better than I might of.

 

[Steve in PA]

It's old, it's unique, and it's silver. Therefore, it's very cool. I suspect the banner is waiting on more information to come out on it's attribution.

 

[CRUSADER]

It's old, it's unique, and it's silver. Therefore, it's very cool. I suspect the banner is waiting on more information to come out on it's attribution.

I'm not sure we will get a definitive attribution. Although there is no reason a mystery can't make the banner.

 

[scruggs]

That’s a spectacular button you brought to new light!

 

[hogge]

I agree, I thought that a long time ago, but you put it better than I might of.

The reasoning I have for caduceus or the other medical symbol was for the meaning of "Phi-Lambda-Sigma", as it would be "relative" to the meaning...... Pharmacy-Leadership-Society. Too bad our forefathers didn't document more of this kind of stuff....or just "better" document for that matter.

 

[CRUSADER]

The reasoning I have for caduceus or the other medical symbol was for the meaning of "Phi-Lambda-Sigma", as it would be "relative" to the meaning...... Pharmacy-Leadership-Society. Too bad our forefathers didn't document more of this kind of stuff....or just "better" document for that matter.

It's a theory, it's just I've seen that kind of hand cut design on many different period pieces, not associated with those letters.

 

[BuckleBoy]

It's a theory, it's just I've seen that kind of hand cut design on many different period pieces, not associated with those letters.

One example...

 

[johnnyblaze]

Has anybody noticed the side by side Ichthys?
It's also Greek like the letters and could be a clue..
~Blaze~
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