3 Minute Colonial Button......

[civilman1]

My Brother "snagged" my Dad from the nursing home today,his Birthday was last Thursday so all my brother's and sister's got together at his house.There are 2 field's right at his "grass-line" on the property,On Aug. 2nd I helped him move some furniture into his new house and then hunted them for the first time with him.That day I came out with 2 musketball's and my first thimble.....Very good potential.....After all the food today everybody was just kickin' back so I went to the truck and grabbed the MXT.What the Hey.....No more than 8 yd.'s off the property I get a solid Button hit.5" down I recovered this....At first I thought I had a coin....If anyone can tell me about the Backmark that would be sweet....It read's Best Silvered with a few little marks in between.....I Wish I would have had a stopwatch......3 min.'s at the most.This field might have to be looked at a little closer.....Any info would be Great guy's.......When you drop it it's got that silver "Ching"......Need's some serious cleaning.Thank's for listening and looking.

 

[Colonial KirkPA]

That looks like a Dandy button, bud! Nice job on the Colonial artifact!

Kirk

 

[civilman1]

That looks like a Dandy button, bud! Nice job on the Colonial artifact!

Kirk

Thank's Kirk....It's excactly the size of a quarter.Is it still considered a "dandy"....I'm more concerned about the Backmark,can't find anything on the "Best Silvered"....Thank's Again!!

 

[silverfreak]

Very nice colonial dig Civ

 

[Colonial KirkPA]

That looks like a Dandy button, bud! Nice job on the Colonial artifact!

Kirk

Thank's Kirk....It's excactly the size of a quarter.Is it still considered a "dandy"....I'm more concerned about the Backmark,can't find anything on the "Best Silvered"....Thank's Again!!

I still consider it! (some detectorist in SJ doesn't though )

Kirk

 

[TimC (North Alabama)]

Thats an awesome button. Great going

 

[Iron Patch]

Nice one, wouldn't clean it though.

 

[Dman]

I have seen those buttons but I don't know anything about them. Great find.
Dman

 

[civilman1]

Nice one, wouldn't clean it though.

IP....I was about 2 minute's away from throwing some Nev-r-Dull on it just to see if it was actually Silver,some of the back I can see some shining through....any more info on it,the backmark is starting to piss me off

 

[Nana40]

Well..I looked for a bit to see what I could find on it. But then again you know how that goes with me. :P

That's a super find though! Get back out there!!! 8) No tellin' what you may find!

Nana

 

[Iron Patch]

Nice one, wouldn't clean it though.

IP....I was about 2 minute's away from throwing some Nev-r-Dull on it just to see if it was actually Silver,some of the back I can see some shining through....any more info on it,the backmark is starting to piss me off

I believe the backmark is just a quality mark stating is was probably above average. Some you can probably date, others maybe not. Definitely in the range of two hundred years old.

There's a chance there could be some silver left, but if you clean it and there's only 20% silver it's not going to look as good as it does now with the patina. (In my opinion) But it's not like betting the house.

 

[ModernMiner]

Civil,
That button must have been calling you. "Dig me. Dig me" Nice recovery buddy.
Hopefully someone can ID that back mark for you. I tried Google, but no luck.
Congrats,
Doug

 

[BuckleBoy]

Doesn't look like there's much silver on it...but if you do see some I'd recommend Aluminum Jelly over anything else. Here's my thread on cleaning buttons:


http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,165857.0.html


Dry toothbrush on two piece buttons except gilded ones, toothpick on flatties with no gilding remaining, and aluminum jelly on the gilded ones...


I have a good many photos there too--as well as a before/after photo of a CW general staff button in a reply.



Regards,


Buckleboy

 

[aa battery]

nice

 

[West Jersey Detecting]

I love finding those buttons. That is a nice one!

I think it is too small to be considered a Dandy button. I am not familiar with the backmark, but my best guess is 1780's-1830's.

Just curious. You mention a solid button hit on the MXT. In my experience, most of my buttons jump around on the VDI, so I am curious what you mean by a solid button hit?

 

[Don in SJ]

A 24mm button, is not a large button like the ones from Ca. 1770's to Ca. 1795 which the British called Dandy buttons (avg size 32-36mm)but that term was not used by Americans. The term Dandy is not used by Tice at all in describing those larger buttons.

Your button seems to fit in with the "Copper based Transitional Buttons", Ca.1795 - Ca.1815. That type had an alpha copper wire shank that was flux-joined to the back. The backmark looks consistant with an early 1800's button.

In Tice's book there are some very similar design buttons, including the similar size and split anvil mark on the backside, just the backmark is different.

Don

 

[civilman1]

I love finding those buttons. That is a nice one!

I think it is too small to be considered a Dandy button. I am not familiar with the backmark, but my best guess is 1780's-1830's.

Just curious. You mention a solid button hit on the MXT. In my experience, most of my buttons jump around on the VDI, so I am curious what you mean by a solid button hit?

Hunting in the relic mode,it alway's stayed on "Button" but it did bounce around from 26-35.....so that's my solid button hit explanation

 

[{Sentinel}]

Nice button find Civil! There were several "Generic" backmarks to describe buttons in that era, you know the ones "Extra Gilt", "Treble Gilt", "Superior Quality", "Extra Quality" etc. etc. As stated above, it is definitely an early 1800s, I'd say between 1800-1820. I'd agree with Buck, if you have some aluminum jelly, that works best, however, you can use something like "MAAS" or any other quality silver polish if you have no aluminum jelly handy.
IT is one of the harder to find backmarks for the flat buttons of that period and I personally have never dug one with that particular backmark though many with the other types. Its a very nice button of that type and the face is in great shape too! Nice 3 minute find bud!

 

[t-bucket]

Cool find on the colonial Button !!!!!

 

[crazyjarhead]

Thats a cool colonial button there civilman