A Rare 16th Century Spoon Mold Find!

timekiller · Oct 28, 2009

A Rare 16th Century Spoon Mold Find!

Took the day off and went MDing.Had found a new site and wanted to hit it.So I Did.Came up with some first for me.And some I don't even know what they are.All needs a better cleaning just done a quick soap and water deal.Here they are till I get them cleaned better. :hello:

Enjoy,
Timekiller!

baspinall · Oct 29, 2009

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Banner in my opinion. That is a GREAT historical find. :thumbsup:

wreckdiver1715 · Oct 29, 2009

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Outstanding!

rjw4law · Oct 29, 2009

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That is amazing...a spoon mold.

timekiller · Oct 29, 2009

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Curious The George said:
A spoon mold wouldn't be something laying around the average house in the day.

You may have the site of a tinsmith or silversmith shop. If you do it is going to be one wild metal detecting site.

Thanks Curious The George,Had took a break for a few and just came back to see all the hits on this wanted to thank you again on the IDing of this spoon mold.Amazing again on the replies from it not the norm I take it! :laughing9:

Have a Good One And HH,

timekiller · Oct 29, 2009

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baspinall said:
Banner in my opinion. That is a GREAT historical find.

Thanks baspinall, :thumbsup:

Timekiller!

DavidBeard · Oct 29, 2009

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Great finds - Great new site....
Love your George II and the design on that key-hole
Keep em coming!

timekiller · Oct 29, 2009

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wreckdiver1715 said:
Outstanding!

Thanks there Mr.Mod. :wink:

(wreckdiver1715) you guy's have a great forum here with lots of people that are willing to help someone. I think the forum has become very well known over the internet.A great community of treasure hunters here on this forum.Thanks for your work in it and to all that makes it possible. :icon_thumleft:

Timekiller!

timekiller · Oct 29, 2009

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DavidBeard said:
Great finds - Great new site....
Love your George II and the design on that key-hole
Keep em coming!

Thanks DavidBeard,yea that was my first for one of those I see them on here alot but had not found one myself.Other coins from that period but not one of them.Anyways Thanks And HH, :thumbsup:

Timekiller! :hello:

RiverRat3 · Oct 29, 2009

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The old copper is nice

johnnyi · Oct 30, 2009

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I'm just posting again because this is probably the rarest and most interesting find of the year, yet it has been sinking to the bottom much too quickly without more people getting a chance to see it!

This mold may be far older than originally guessed. In fact it is likely that it may go back to the early 1500's.

The spoons themselves from this period are terribly rare, valued at a thousand or more. Such spoons were of the few articles of value owned by the very first people to set foot on our land. A mold like this is far far rarer than the spoon it made, and is an iconic relic deserving of the finest museum. (the Mercer Museum does not even have a mold that approaches this one's date or rarity)

Here is a link to one of the spoons a mold such as this manufactured. It will be wonderful to finally see such a major rarity up there on banner, and it will be a proud moment for Treasurenet as well!

http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?intObjectID=4894507

Curious The George · Oct 30, 2009

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Whoa! Nice post Johnny. In the right hands a spoon from this mold just may be identified and if the spoon has a makers mark then the original owner and time period pinned down.

Now that is dreaming but possible.

I sure hope the other half of the mold can be found.

johnnyi · Oct 30, 2009

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Curious The George said:
Whoa! Nice post Johnny. In the right hands a spoon from this mold just may be identified and if the spoon has a makers mark then the original owner and time period pinned down.

Now that is dreaming but possible.

I sure hope the other half of the mold can be found.

I agree it would be nice George, but it doesn't even matter with a rarity like this; a style which was from the 1500's (acorn ending at end of that century). A Century before the witches were burned at Salem! You're right in another respect; that this exact mold CAN be matched to existing spoons as it is, just by subtleties in the handle and exact measurements, but that requires museums knowing this mold exists! http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?intObjectID=4894507

pjroo33 · Oct 30, 2009

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That spoon mold is AWESOME!!!!! It's an incredible and unique find that deserves to be on the BANNER! LOVE IT. Congrats.... You've found yourself a great spot to hunt!

BuckleBoy · Oct 30, 2009

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This is one facet of early life here that I had never thought about until now--how pewter spoons were made. This was a great post to read. That mold is a unique find. I am nominating this for the Banner, because it certainly deserves it. Now get out there and find the other half.

:thumbsup:

Kyle PA · Oct 30, 2009

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johnnyi said:
I'm just posting again because this is probably the rarest and most interesting find of the year, yet it has been sinking to the bottom much too quickly without more people getting a chance to see it!

This mold may be far older than originally guessed. In fact it is likely that it may go back to the early 1500's.

The spoons themselves from this period are terribly rare, valued at a thousand or more. Such spoons were of the few articles of value owned by the very first people to set foot on our land. A mold like this is far far rarer than the spoon it made, and is an iconic relic deserving of the finest museum. (the Mercer Museum does not even have a mold that approaches this one's date or rarity)

Here is a link to one of the spoons a mold such as this manufactured. It will be wonderful to finally see such a major rarity up there on banner, and it will be a proud moment for Treasurenet as well!

http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?intObjectID=4894507

This, without a doubt, deserves to be up top. I have never, during my four years on forums, seen a Colonial spoon mold posted before.

Pete, it has been a pleasure viewing your Colonial recoveries this year. I look forward to viewing many more this year and the next and the next year after that and the next year after that and until you decide to retire from the NC frontier Colonial diggings. :laughing9:

Kyle

timekiller · Oct 30, 2009

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Just getting to this this morning,George,Jonnyi, :icon_thumleft:

much thanks with your very useful help guy's truly :notworthy:

Pjroo33,Buckleboy,and KylePa guy's thanks to you as well I'm going back with in the next few days now to see with a little luck if I can find the other half you can believe that good lord willing :laughing9:

Thanks guy's I don't believe myself how my finds this year are turning out just crazy in a way.But have put the grunt work in them so it does pay off I guess.Just sorry they are always so hard to figure out but guess that's a good thing in this hobby.(rare) And has it's own rush to it as it is learned from. Good Deal Guy's and Happy Hunting To YOU ALL!!!!! :headbang:

Timekiller!

timekiller · Oct 30, 2009

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Also for you guy's tring to figure this piece out.There are like notches in the mold piece I don't know if they are some kind of makers mark or what if need be I can take some more pics.Don't know how you guy's come up with the things you do with these finds I'd be here for ever tring to find something on them not very good in that field.One of many things this forum is good for a fact! :headbang:

Timekiller!

rebeljim52 · Oct 30, 2009

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great finds .love seeing the things people find,

CRUSADER · Oct 30, 2009

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timekiller said:
Also for you guy's tring to figure this piece out.There are like notches in the mold piece I don't know if they are some kind of makers mark or what if need be I can take some more pics.Don't know how you guy's come up with the things you do with these finds I'd be here for ever tring to find something on them not very good in that field.One of many things this forum is good for a fact!
Timekiller!

The marker marks are on the missing piece (if it had one, none visable on that piece), go out & find it :icon_thumright:

Good work Jonnyi on the possible 16th Century date, needs further work to confirm this & I ruled it out based on likely hood & similar 17th C types. However, if it is, it needs Museum expertise, probably British as well, as its likely too specialist. (I guess). Look for the other half, if you get it, I can pass on some contacts.

I already voted banner. Once again, if this doesn't make it nothing should. :icon_thumright: