American Gun Owners to be Fingerprinted and Registered: Feinstein Announces Nightmare

[Treasure_Hunter]

Dano, people who live in glass houses should be careful on the rocks they throw, a lot of war crimes committed by English as well. Irish can speak about that as could the colonist during Am revolution, the people of India, as well Africa.

 

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[Chadeaux]

Hmm well, the 2nd time was definately fought for the American "way of life" concerning attacking and (trying to) occupy a country that never did you any harm, and the right to slaughter your native indians for your "expansionism"....I can't argue with that one!

As a Native American, I take exception with your statement and find it quite offensive. You forget many things, but probably due to a lack of education in history. Otherwise you would not be so quick to ignore it.

Yes, there were wrongs done, and many continue. What you forget is that many of us also fought against Britain and her abuses of the people here. You seem to forget that Britain was abusing Native Americans long before there was a United States.

So look at the pot calling the kettle black! You really need to learn your history before you stick your British nose where it does not belong.

 

[Chadeaux]

Not poor schools TH, just a lack of inclination to educate someone who can get full details very easily.
Being an Englishman i'd have been on the raped and murdered side of those fights. I don't have any vikings mate!
Besides,most invading armies are guilty of rape and murder of innocents. It's apparently "just part of war". Your very own My Lai massacre being one (well documentized and published) example.

Sorry, it must be poor schools as you are not being taught the truth. Schools are supposed to educate, not turn students loose to decide what they need to learn.

The original invading army here was the British. They did rape and murder Native Americans as well as all other races.

Your argument is not accurate, as usual.

 

[coinhound1983]

Were a very young country, this country was founded and built by means of violence. Always involving cold steel. We are a cushioned and protected country because we continue to create peace by means of violence. Whoever agrees we should have a gun ban, should thank they're grandparents who started making looney toons cartoons, where people kill each other over and over again. How about read the news in china about the men who kill dozens of people with a butcher knife. It's not the guns. It's the warped minds of people who have no purpose in life and don't know the Meaning of life and how fragile it is. Enough said. 3 time combat veteran, twice wounded protecting you guys. Just understand it's the people. If utake away guns were in bad shape. Enough said

 

[Red James Cash]

If utake away guns were in bad shape.

I believe we are in even worse shape if we permit guns to be taken away.

 

[coinhound1983]

Red James you are correct. Let's just say guns are banned. Now let's say the aurora massacre happend again, except this time he already had a 300lb bomb pre planted in theatre. Bad people will find ways to create violence in all which ways shapes and forms. You can try to take away guns if you like and people will feel safer I guess, if you live in paradise. But on a strategic scale, we would be very very vulnerable to a foreign power. Most people who want a gun ban have never left they're safety bubble. I believe there's a quote someone said in the past.
"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not."
Thomas Jefferson

 

[Red James Cash]

Now let's say the aurora massacre happend again,

I guarantee something similar will happen again if this gun ban goes through.They wont take them all at once.But theyll chip away at the 2nd until it is gone.If the semi autos go,there will be another incident and then the pumps,bolt and lever actions will go.Its as plain as the brightest day,they want us unarmed.Thats the bottom line.

 

[Coinstriking Michigan]

I wonder if the Secret Service will still carry guns. They need them for protection correct? The same reason 95% of Americans need them, for protection from criminals who could give two craps about laws and bans. Those liberal vermin really need to put blame where it belongs...with evil people.

 

[Chadeaux]

I wonder if the Secret Service will still carry guns. They need them for protection correct? The same reason 95% of Americans need them, for protection from criminals who could give two craps about laws and bans. Those liberal vermin really need to put blame where it belongs...with evil people.

Probably more accurate to say, "Those LAWLESS vermin who are attacking the 2nd need to put blame where it belongs . . . with evil people.

The word "liberal" can get this thread locked as that makes it political.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Gentle men keep it civil and by our rules please....

 

[civil_war22]

Treasure hunter I was being completely civil. I was simply stating that the British were not good to the American Indians. Everyone knows Brits were bad news.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Wasn't talking about the indians, it was the last comments in your post..

Please all, keep comments with in our rules..

 

[Dano Sverige]

I see your double standards have come into play again TH. It's ok to delete my factual and non-confrontational response to Chadeaux, but not ok to delete his original name calling,questioning my education and drifting along his own historical lines to make his point (which was wrong)?
How come you're so anti-political posts, yet allow all these gun debate threads to remain while also adding your own long opinions...all of which will eventually be decided by your government, which is a political body, right?
I'm actually a "mod" on another site and if i moderated as you do, which is basically "biased", there'd be no threads left for anyone to debate about!

I'm being picky, i see no harm in Chad's posts, just his opinions and that's all i responded with in mine. His posts are technically a lot more derogatory and confrontational than my response and yet mine gets deleted and his stay! (not that i really care, but "principle" and all that ya know?)
If you're going to be a "mod" then be an impartial one!

 

[civil_war22]

Whining is for babies. Guns are for real men

 

[Dano Sverige]

That's twice in 2 posts you've been derogatory about me Mr war....i got banned for less!

 

[civil_war22]

Was I talking to you. Did it specifically say your name. No. I got better things to do then talk smack about you. I'm talking in general. Omg not everything is about you

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Dano, I mod from smartphone during the day.

You mod as you see fit on your site and stay out of how we mod here.

I mod according to our rules, you have a problem with how I do, contact admins, keep your criticism of how I/we mod off the forums per our rules.

 

[releventchair]

And so we go from general to personal. The id the ego and super ego, in reverse. And where do the attackers we despise spend their time dwelling?.
Its a collective right being challenged that is extended to individuals, stable individuals who don,t take great offence at slights or presumed slights.
Maybe its just easy to be brave from a safe distance behind a key board, or we,re getting closer to what's wrong with today's culture.

 

[ibjeepn]

If members start using liberal vs conservative, dem vs rep, right vs left I will lock thread, keep it generic and party politics out of it.

Politics are not allowed, as long as threads and posts remain generic we will allow, otherwise they get locked and or deleted.

It already went there in the first post. Saying that Democrats and and their co-conspiratoring republicans are the cause. Stereotyping at its best. Not all Democrats are anti-gun. Just another thing that divides this nation. Untruths believed and passed along by the uninformed. MHO.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Jeep, admins and mods decide where the line is crossed just like umpires call the ball and strikes in a ball game.