Anyone in Colorado want a good lead? Looks like alot of fun.

Mojave · Jan 19, 2009

Let me know. In my research I have come across this lead - about 2000 pounds of Silver bars just waiting to be found behind a wall in an office of an old abandoned mining operation. I have done some footwork on this, and it really appears legit - The people were real, the story surrounding it happened, and the main people were there at the time that this happened.

Looks like it could be fun, especially if someone had an ATV or something. I'm just so busy with a couple of others, I just don't have the time. You won't come home empty handed either, as there are plenty of other things around that area that would be cool to find.

Let me know. My email is: TheBluesGrinder@Yahoo.com

Chris

Native1858 · Oct 8, 2009

I would like to hear more please.

Tom_in_CA · Oct 8, 2009

if us md'rs had a dollar for each "sure fire" treasure lead, we would be rich ::)

And each one is water-tight alibi, eye-witnesses, newspaper accounts on micro-film, etc.... In each case, ask yourself "how do they know?". Like even in newspaper cuttings from the 1880s, how did the guy writing the story get his info? By merely writing what someone told him was what they think or saw! And how can you argue with the miner .... dying of thirst .... who drags himself into the wild west saloon .... the only survivor of an indian attack .... who tells of a fabulous hidden mine..... but then dies after only giving cryptic clues?

For example: I chased several "sure fire" treasure stories all over Mexico. In each case, it was air-tight for-sure. But when caves turned up empty, or floors/walls of old adobe homes had no large signals in them, I began to ask my hosts to tell me the story again, from the beginnings. And THEN it turns into "well, I didn't actually *see* the treasure, but I know someone, who knew someone, who knew someone, who...." etc... Or they saw a fire or smoke in the corner, etc...

I am convinced that 99% of treasure lore is just embellished superstition. Looked at on the surface, will always be air-tight, but when read s-l-o-w-l-y and critically, reveals multiple other (and probable) explanations. The human mind wants so badly to believe in each treasure story we hear (afterall, who wants to be "left out"?) that we tend to prop them up, embellish them, don't question them, etc....

rginn · Oct 13, 2009

Well Tom, my goodness. Actually if I had a nickel for every sure fire treasure lead I'd be rich. Here where I'm at it's fixin to get so cold that you can't break the ground with dynamite. So I like to spend some time readin some good treasure stories. We all know the common denominators in all the stories. But it's still fun to read. J. Frank Dobie told Steve Wilson that the real gold was not in findin the treasure, but writin about it. Could be right.

Kentucky Kache · Oct 13, 2009

RGINN said:
J. Frank Dobie told Steve Wilson that the real gold was not in findin the treasure, but writin about it. Could be right.

I'm finding that to be true. :icon_thumleft:

Tom_in_CA · Oct 13, 2009

Rginn, I have seen this psychology even in my own short 30 yrs. of md'ing: I'll be swinging away at a beach, or an old-town urban demo, or wherever, and someone comes up to me telling me of fabulous finds made by an md'r years ago. As they recount the story that their "trusted Uncle Bob" (or whoever) told them, it becomes clear to them that they are talking about ME! So I'll try to correct them: No you don't understand, the "kid" you are talking about was me 25 yrs. ago, and yes, we were finding some silver coins on this beach after that storm. But no it wasn't "boat-loads of coins being scooped up. And yes gold coins were found, but only two, worth scarcely $200 each, not a million dollars as you suggest". Try as I may, the person won't be convinced. Afterall, they heard it first hand, so it surely must be someone else, maybe at a beach nearby, blah blah blah.

I have to stop and think "it's stories like this (where a sincere person hears what they want to hear) get started into the food-chain, get into some article somewhere, and once it's 'in print', it becomes absolute fact". 50 or 100 yrs. later, to someone reading now, why should they have any doubt? Afterall, this was an "eye-witness" of the period, who "talked first-hand with the guy who saw it". Heck, human superstition is so deep-rooted, that the mere fact of someone jogging away from an open hole with a shovel or detector, is a sure sign that treasures lurk everywhere, eh? ::)

Goodyguy · Oct 13, 2009

If Mojave says it's a good lead then I believe him. :thumbsup:

Wish I could getaway, but for now too many commitments.

GG~

rginn · Oct 13, 2009

I think I'll e-mail Mojave and check it out. I definitely know what you're saying Tom. Most of us all know the common denominators in treasure stories, depending on what part of the country we're from, that will indicate myth or urban legend. For me it's '17 jack loads' of gold or silver. Never 16 or 18, or even 2. I believe somethin went on a long time ago that involved 17, and the story grew and spread from there. I also believe the inspiration for that tale has been found long ago, and somebody was cool enough to keep their mouth shut.

Kentucky Kache · Oct 13, 2009

Tom_in_CA said:
Rginn, I have seen this psychology even in my own short 30 yrs. of md'ing: I'll be swinging away at a beach, or an old-town urban demo, or wherever, and someone comes up to me telling me of fabulous finds made by an md'r years ago. As they recount the story that their "trusted Uncle Bob" (or whoever) told them, it becomes clear to them that they are talking about ME! So I'll try to correct them: No you don't understand, the "kid" you are talking about was me 25 yrs. ago, and yes, we were finding some silver coins on this beach after that storm. But no it wasn't "boat-loads of coins being scooped up. And yes gold coins were found, but only two, worth scarcely $200 each, not a million dollars as you suggest". Try as I may, the person won't be convinced. Afterall, they heard it first hand, so it surely must be someone else, maybe at a beach nearby, blah blah blah.

I have to stop and think "it's stories like this (where a sincere person hears what they want to hear) get started into the food-chain, get into some article somewhere, and once it's 'in print', it becomes absolute fact". 50 or 100 yrs. later, to someone reading now, why should they have any doubt? Afterall, this was an "eye-witness" of the period, who "talked first-hand with the guy who saw it". Heck, human superstition is so deep-rooted, that the mere fact of someone jogging away from an open hole with a shovel or detector, is a sure sign that treasures lurk everywhere, eh?

The amounts were greatly exaggerated, but the coins were found at that spot. I think there are good leads out there, some are no doubt exaggerated when it comes to how much was cached, but the basics of the story are good. I said SOME of them.

BIG61AL · Oct 17, 2009

Have there been great treasures found? Yes, but I am sure it was not by some treasure tale or story....they were found because someone stumbled into them....No one is ever going to find a treasure by reading about it.....

Kentucky Kache · Oct 17, 2009

BIG61AL said:
Have there been great treasures found? Yes, but I am sure it was not by some treasure tale or story....they were found because someone stumbled into them....No one is ever going to find a treasure by reading about it.....

Not all leads come from stories. You're probably right about most of the published stories.

Woodland Detectors · Oct 18, 2009

Just be careful. I chased a couple of those out there. Sometimes dangerous.But, you already know that.
Good luck sounds like fun

hidin · Oct 21, 2009

I think a number of the stories have at least a grain of truth in them. I'm on the board of my county historical society and being one of the original Colorado counties, full of mining history, we have a few stories of our own. Once you start studying the history you begin to get a feel for what is possibly real and what is a "Norwegian brothers find gold full of cement, one brother breaks leg and dies in the wilderness, other brother survives but refuses to go back because of the horrors he witnessed" stories. So many people have spent(wasted?) their lives searching for the elusive lost treasure that it can be kind of sad. Yet the lure is undeniable.
I hope your lead turns out to be real and some lucky soul finds it.

Rasputin · Oct 23, 2009

I just think that it is human nature to embellish stories. All societies have a deeply ingrained oral storytelling tradition. Just know that the story is exaggerated, but at the same time probably based on a kernel of truth.