Armada chest??

[rockpassion]

Great new photos... thank you i enjoyed them.

have you looked at the bottom ? ? ?

they stuck something on the bottom to not scratch the floor. but here is a chest with the same nail on the inside: https://jordaens.eu/lot/gepatineerd...sel-een-zeer-groot-slot-met-bijpassende-hout/

 

[rockpassion]

Great new photos... thank you i enjoyed them.

have you looked at the bottom ? ? ?

do you think it is neurenberg?

 

[ARC]

they stuck something on the bottom to not scratch the floor. but here is a chest with the same nail on the inside: https://jordaens.eu/lot/gepatineerd...sel-een-zeer-groot-slot-met-bijpassende-hout/

Your link leads to an actual Armada chest.

Your chest is just after that period IMO... like i said... 1800's ... could be earlier than 1850's ..... early 1800's... but ?

Also... i meant to elaborate some more... your chest is actually called / referred to as a "3 lock box".

 

[rockpassion]

Your link leads to an actual Armada chest.

Your chest is just after that period IMO... like i said... 1800's ... could be earlier than 1850's ..... early 1800's... but ?

Also... i meant to elaborate some more... your chest is actually called / referred to as a "3 lock box".

yes i understood but i noticed the same nails on the old aramda chest did the use that riviting for a longer time then? and is my chest from neurenberg?

 

[ARC]

yes i understood but i noticed the same nails on the old aramda chest did the use that riviting for a longer time then? and is my chest from neurenberg?

Oh sheesh man i have no idea where it was made... that is a pure guess by anyone other than someone who has intimate knowledge with this exact chest / maker.
Have you looked for any markings on the bottom ?

As far as the "rivets"... heck that technique was widespread throughout iron / metal workings in history.

They have been doing rivets since roman times... heh
Suits of armor makers were proficient in rivets.

 

[rockpassion]

Oh sheesh man i have no idea where it was made... that is a pure guess by anyone other than someone who has intimate knowledge with this exact chest / maker.
Have you looked for any markings on the bottom ?

As far as the "rivets"... heck that technique was widespread throughout iron / metal workings in history.

They have been doing rivets since roman times... heh
Suits of armor makers were proficient in rivets.

oke i understand. No problem. It looks like the wooden plank has been in there for a long time. i could carbon date is to get a first time frame but that is expensive i think.

 

[ARC]

oke i understand. No problem. It looks like the wooden plank has been in there for a long time. i could carbon date is to get a first time frame but that is expensive i think.

Dont bother with carbon dating... i for one think the method is flawed anyway... so i would not personally.
Besides is it all that important ?
I have mystery items laying around and yes i would love to know more about them but at the same time it does not matter... i am not selling them and i enjoy them ... in other words they are not going anywhere and perhaps someday some light will inadvertently be shed on them.

When i say bottom i mean THE BOTTOM. heh
UNDER side.
AKA... the side touching the floor itself.

 

[rockpassion]

Dont bother with carbon dating... i for one think the method is flawed anyway... so i would not personally.
Besides is it all that important ?
I have mystery items laying around and yes i would love to know more about them but at the same time it does not matter... i am not selling them and i enjoy them ... in other words they are not going anywhere and perhaps someday some light will inadvertently be shed on them.

When i say bottom i mean THE BOTTOM. heh
UNDER side.
AKA... the side touching the floor itself.

yes i understand te bottom part but there is someting stuck underneath as i mentioned before so nothing to see.

 

[ARC]

Dont bother with carbon dating... i for one think the method is flawed anyway... so i would not personally.
Besides is it all that important ?
I have mystery items laying around and yes i would love to know more about them but at the same time it does not matter... i am not selling them and i enjoy them ... in other words they are not going anywhere and perhaps someday some light will inadvertently be shed on them.

When i say bottom i mean THE BOTTOM. heh
UNDER side.
AKA... the side touching the floor itself.

Ahh yes you mentioned some felt or something ealier... sorry not quite awake yet...

You might want to remove that at some point... just to see if it has some makers markings.

Then redo it with new felt or something if you wish.

 

[ARC]

Look its like this... this piece will only increase in value over time.
Let it sit and use it for storage of some things... acquire some nice padlocks... even the reproduction padlocks would be ok if you choose.
Make a note of such things you do know about it including the fact the padlocks were added and tape it to the inside lid.
Find a cool place to display it... and enjoy.
Heck a little piece of glass with some felt round spot feet and the thing is a "end table".

Perhaps... one day in the future... someone here... over time may run across this thread and say "hey that is a blah blah made by blah blah".
OR... someone like me or another user will eventually run across some other info concerning it.
IMO...
You should keep it no matter... unless it becomes a burden due to a space issue or you just get tired of looking at it.
Then at that time i would invest more time into trying to pin it down more... but really it does not matter.
anyone with a good eye for quality antiques is gonna love it... so you wont hve much trouble finding a buyer later on if you so choose.

 

[rockpassion]

Ahh yes you mentioned some felt or something ealier... sorry not quite awake yet...

You might want to remove that at some point... just to see if it has some makers markings.

Then redo it with new felt or something if you wish.

i will not fool around with it, and it is better for my floor. just moved house a year ago and an expensive floor.

 

[russau]

Yep that would make a great end table w/ glass top . and very conversational piece !!

 

[rockpassion]

Just to round things up, here are some better photo's and enjoy drooling over it

 

[rockpassion]

well it turnes out to be quite a special box according the site who sells a similair one: https://www.pamono.eu/iron-privatee...CChHzUCeDMUZX4ODCoqdxP3AhdAQ65Ke2a1WYIA1nEuaR

 

[ARC]

Love how the listing says......."18th century"... but then states the design / production periods to simply be "before 1890". heh

Vintage Design
Privateer's chest dating from the 18th century.
This chest with sober lines has an important weight essential for the stability on board the ships of the time.
This chest, necessary for the transport of valuable objects or documents, has a central key lock, hasp latches and solid hinges.
Surrounded by thicker rushes and side carrying handles, this chest rests on four pebbled feet.
Inside, we discover a spacious storage space painted in red, complemented by a double-bottomed floor and a lid that also conceals a compartment.
Original and sturdy, this 18th century privateer's chest will delight lovers of objects with a history.

*******
Period : 18th century

Dimensions :
Width : 51.5 cm
Depth : 32 cm
Height : 33 cm

Weight : 35 kg.
Click here for full description

Design Period Before 1890
Production Period Before 1890

 

[ARC]

Oh and ... lol....

"This chest with sober lines has an important weight essential for the stability on board the ships of the time."

People crack me up.

 

[rockpassion]

Love how the listing says......."18th century"... but then states the design / production periods to simply be "before 1890". heh

Vintage Design
Privateer's chest dating from the 18th century.
This chest with sober lines has an important weight essential for the stability on board the ships of the time.
This chest, necessary for the transport of valuable objects or documents, has a central key lock, hasp latches and solid hinges.
Surrounded by thicker rushes and side carrying handles, this chest rests on four pebbled feet.
Inside, we discover a spacious storage space painted in red, complemented by a double-bottomed floor and a lid that also conceals a compartment.
Original and sturdy, this 18th century privateer's chest will delight lovers of objects with a history.

*******
Period : 18th century

Dimensions :
Width : 51.5 cm
Depth : 32 cm
Height : 33 cm

Weight : 35 kg.
Click here for full description

Design Period Before 1890
Production Period Before 1890

ooops did only see the title. but cleary nobody knows the exact date of the chests. but pretty pricy, anyone can ask all they want but if you get it is something different.

 

[ConceptualizedNetherlandr]

Love how the listing says......."18th century"... but then states the design / production periods to simply be "before 1890". heh

Vintage Design
Privateer's chest dating from the 18th century.
This chest with sober lines has an important weight essential for the stability on board the ships of the time.
This chest, necessary for the transport of valuable objects or documents, has a central key lock, hasp latches and solid hinges.
Surrounded by thicker rushes and side carrying handles, this chest rests on four pebbled feet.
Inside, we discover a spacious storage space painted in red, complemented by a double-bottomed floor and a lid that also conceals a compartment.
Original and sturdy, this 18th century privateer's chest will delight lovers of objects with a history.

*******
Period : 18th century

Dimensions :
Width : 51.5 cm
Depth : 32 cm
Height : 33 cm

Weight : 35 kg.
Click here for full description

Design Period Before 1890
Production Period Before 1890

Nothing inconsistent about the dates, just odd. same listing with different vendor:

Iron Corsair Chest 18th, 1700s | Vinterior

18th century Corsair chest. This box with sober lines has a significant weight essential for stability on board ships of the time. This crate, necessary for the transport of objects or valuable...

www.vinterior.co

 

[ARC]

Nothing inconsistent about the dates, just odd. same listing with different vendor:

Iron Corsair Chest 18th, 1700s | Vinterior

18th century Corsair chest. This box with sober lines has a significant weight essential for stability on board ships of the time. This crate, necessary for the transport of objects or valuable...

www.vinterior.co

? ? ?

Nothing inconsistent about the dates ya say ?

Hmmm.... you reading teh same thing i am ?

You do realize that "18th century" means 1700's right ?

AND that the date they assigned it was 1890 right ?

And that the description was written by someone who knows jack crap about it..... right ?

 

[ConceptualizedNetherlandr]

? ? ?

Nothing inconsistent about the dates ya say ?

Hmmm.... you reading teh same thing i am ?

You do realize that "18th century" means 1700's right ?

AND that the date they assigned it was 1890 right ?

And that the description was written by someone who knows jack crap about it..... right ?

I wish I had the kind of rum you get

You said, and even quoted it: ""before 1890"" which is consistent. Even the crusades qualify.