Big points

[GatorBoy]

It was always tough for me to find the big stuff..3" and over. I have only a few that are. I thought it would be a great show if everyone posted the big guns. Show them off Ya'll! The first is a cypress creek at 3 5/8" ..the second is a Newman/Marion? At 3" long by 2" wide..both personal finds.. the other is from Texas and measures in right at 3"

 

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[Twitch]

One last item (I can't seem to leave this page) for all the negative comments and skepticism this is sure to surface, is that there there is virtually no disagreement at all as to this points authenticity, at least none that I've ever heard, seen or read about. Hopefully this will silence some of the photo authenticators (I know I'm guilty of this too).

 

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[RutzClovis]

That, ladies and gentlemen, is actually the largest known Clovis, found in east central Washington state. Same basic country as the Richey (Wenatchee) cache.

RutzClovis - if that actually is the Rutz Clovis, please at least acknowledge that you can't come in here and drop and casually drop a picture or two and then move on. We'd love to see more pic's and get more info. From the picture I don't see anything to make me question anything about it, I agree that it's the Rutz Clovis. Do you own this piece? Or do you just have access to it? If you could start a new thread on the point I think we'd all love to discuss and learn about it. I'm sure there will be some boo-birds, but the vast majority of us would appreciate it.

Thanks,
Joe

I'd honestly love to answer picture requests, the piece actually belongs to my family and they've finally given me the go-ahead to gather more info and figure out if there was any interest in it any longer. Essentially, I want to make sure people who are passionate about the subject get to see and ask questions about it, even though the final decision rests with my mother who is the definitive owner of the piece. I also want to get up to date info since, like I said, my paperwork while valid is rather old (a few people have even passed away since talking to my mother). I'll put a thread up and try to get some more pictures tomorrow, especially requests for notes etc. I don't know what you guys are going to want to see exactly but I'll do what I can to document the thing.

-D

 

[GatorBoy]

You sound pretty sure about it there Twitch. It's not going to make a difference to me either way.. I didn't find it. It should have its own thread... So many more people can see it.

 

[tomclark]

You folks are killing me with these pieces!

Meant to respond to GatorBoy about my last post (large white point). Myself and a trusted authenticator think it is part of the Suwannee assemblage.... It was found about 5 feet deep in the muck at the edge of Lake Tarpon. Two feet above it in the same hole was this point with some rind on the base, made of greasy agate.

 

[Wildcat1750]

What a great thread and so many impressive finds, everyone! I'm still looking for that big one to post.

 

[GatorBoy]

Thanks Tom
That piece really shows its age! It would have probably been crusted even worse if not for the muck. Killer piece!

 

[tomclark]

No, it is really, really crusted to the point of being almost chalky!!! Very old and been in water/moist a loooooong time. You got me thinking if there were wood or other perishables in that muck.....

 

[GatorBoy]

Hmmmmm?

 

[old digger]

Hope it is okay to repost this one?

 

[tomclark]

Holy Cow what a blade! Super thick patina! That is a center/master piece.

"Usually" our points in FL have patina that is thicker/est if older. In my experience it is usually whitish with varying degrees of orangish from minerals. Some of the oldest finds in this state, under less desirable conditions over thousands of years, become chalky on the outside, not just whitish. This chalkiness can go completely through a piece. In some instances, any soluble part or from acids in the soil over time erodes out of the surface and it becomes porous as well as chalky. In some pieces the patina/chalky condition obliterates edgework. I've also seen patina taken up differently in use-worn areas of a piece.

 

[GatorBoy]

That is one awesome blade!
Tom..... Over the years Have you noticed That patina being different On land finds verses water finds?

 

[scotto]

Hope it is okay to repost this one?


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WOW. What's the story on that bad boy? Sweet!

 

[old digger]

Scotto, It was found by my wife's grandparents. If I found an artifact like that, I'd still be dancing, but I am hoping that one day I may have the privilege of finding one that is as monumental.

 

[Tnmountains]

I am kinda embarrassed to post behind you guys. Here are 3 items I dug all touching each other on 8-06-2006. At 4 inches ,Fort payne on the knife and Honstone on the unifaced item. They are rough and I think hurriedly made. I have never really typed the knifes as it is a toss up between Copena and Tn River knifes.I dug Kirks ,Daltons Bottlenecks and Hamiltons there so it was a multi component site all now covered by progress.

 

[NC field hunter]

I am kinda embarrassed to post behind you guys. Here are 3 items I dug all touching each other on 8-06-2006. At 4 inches ,Fort payne on the knife and Honstone on the unifaced item. They are rough and I think hurriedly made. I have never really typed the knifes as it is a toss up between Copena and Tn River knifes.I dug Kirks ,Daltons Bottlenecks and Hamiltons there so it was a multi component site all now covered by progress.

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TN!! That Savannah river point that you wanted to know the measurement on is 3 1/2 inches. Nothing like some of the monsters posted here!

 

[Twitch]

I am kinda embarrassed to post behind you guys. Here are 3 items I dug all touching each other on 8-06-2006. At 4 inches ,Fort payne on the knife and Honstone on the unifaced item. They are rough and I think hurriedly made. I have never really typed the knifes as it is a toss up between Copena and Tn River knifes.I dug Kirks ,Daltons Bottlenecks and Hamiltons there so it was a multi component site all now covered by progress.

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Tnmountains - For what it's worth they look like Copena artifacts to me. nice work on the cache find.

 

[TimeWaster]

Here is a Scraper? that I found on a butte near Scottsbluff Nebraska when I was 14. Found the petite little drill and the bones at the same site. Not sure what the scraper is made of. It is a grayish greenish color and looks like a sandy flint. Clinks when struck like glass.

 

[GatorBoy]

I was just looking through this awesome thread one more time and thought it deserved a bump.
Please add to this if you can.

 

[kuger]

I could be way off..
But it looks like a reproduction Made of slag.

Gator,what are you seeing that makes you say slag?There is nothing I can see that looks any different from coal black obsidian.As you know I am sure there are MANY shades and colors of obsidian....yes even green....actually one quarry just over the Mtn from me has a lot of greenish hue obsidian

 

[GatorBoy]

Just that there is huge potential profit in reproducing a piece like that....it has been reproduced many times and papers as we know are forged reproduced and falsified. Like a Babe Ruth rookie card. I guess I'm just a skeptical person.
Here is a slag point made at a pow wow. I attended last week.
I don't want to argue over it... I would just be cautious.