brass acorn - SOLVED

[Steve001]

What was this object used for?
Thanks

 

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[Steve001]

Re: brass acorn

Alright before anybody else get's their dander up let me say that I did not find it. I PM'ed the original poster and they did not find it either and are themselves looking for an answer. They do not have this object in their posession, so, I decided to come here where there is a good chance with the number of people finding things that someone has come across this type of object before or might know of some other resource where the object in question can be indentified. So let's cool our jets folks.
here's the original post you'll probably have to register to access this board.
http://www.taps18.com/index.php?topic=35763.0

 

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[jasonbo]

Re: brass acorn

I saw one of these from great grandfather long ago.

Put it to the cane pole it floats trout come up swallow it as soon as they do you pop (where the name popper came from)

this i belive is late 1700's early 1800's

I could be totally off by the date

he and my grandfather were master fisherman

My grandfather used to cane pole carp out of the great miami river in ohio during the depression he would see the eggs an the carcasses to people waiting on the shore

 

[Michelle]

Re: brass acorn

Alright before anybody else get's their dander up let me say that I did not find it. I PM'ed the original poster and they did not find it either and are themselves looking for an answer. They do not have this object in their posession, so, I decided to come here where there is a good chance with the number of people finding things that someone has come across this type of object before or might know of some other resource where the object in question can be indentified. So let's cool our jets folks.
here's the original post you'll probably have to register to access this board.
http://www.taps18.com/index.php?topic=35763.0

WOW...Was there a reason you couldnt just say that before our jet's got warmed... anyway I cant wait for that answer either so GOOD LUCK to you and yours!

 

[Steve001]

Re: brass acorn

Alright before anybody else get's their dander up let me say that I did not find it. I PM'ed the original poster and they did not find it either and are themselves looking for an answer. They do not have this object in their posession, so, I decided to come here where there is a good chance with the number of people finding things that someone has come across this type of object before or might know of some other resource where the object in question can be indentified. So let's cool our jets folks.
here's the original post you'll probably have to register to access this board.
http://www.taps18.com/index.php?topic=35763.0

WOW...Was there a reason you couldnt just say that before our jet's got warmed... anyway I cant wait for that answer either so GOOD LUCK to you and yours!

Sorry, I did not anticipate that people would think I posted this for nothing more then a good laugh.

 

[jeff of pa]

Re: brass acorn

Sorry, I did not anticipate that people would think I posted this for nothing more then a good laugh.

I wouldn't have Either Steve.

I just Wish someone would be able to I.d. it, as it is a Very Curious looking Piece.

Thanks for Posting it.
Jeff

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: brass acorn

Okay..everybody calm down...hmm..ok....l am going to take this in a different direction.The only reason it looks like an acorn is the knurling. Knurling is to get a grip or to open. Open to repair.

Being brass, it is probably used in water or steam...OK?

I think this could be some type of "steam pressure relief valve." Something like on a hot water heater. You pull the stem to release pressure. The nails are to keep the small holes open. It might even be for a pressure cooker.
I don't know how it would attach. Maybe there are threads on the bottom that we cannot see in pic.
What do you think? In the right direction?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: brass acorn

Nope, no inlet or outlet to regulate anything.
Doc

The outlet would be the three holes, kept open by the nails. If there is no hole on the bottom, you are right. We cannot see the bottom. How many times have you seen a picture that does not reveal everything. I would like to see the bottom. Is it round, like we are assuming, or is it flat, or is there a hole...threads?
We would have figured this out a long time ago if we could ask questions.

 

[Michelle]

Re: brass acorn

Nope, no inlet or outlet to regulate anything.
Doc

The outlet would be the three holes, kept open by the nails. If there is no hole on the bottom, you are right. We cannot see the bottom. How many times have you seen a picture that does not reveal everything. I would like to see the bottom. Is it round, like we are assuming, or is it flat, or is there a hole...threads?
We would have figured this out a long time ago if we could ask questions.

notta

 

[Michelle]

Re: brass acorn

do you know how hard it is to not keep looking for this thing??

 

[Michelle]

Re: brass acorn

What was this object used for?
Thanks

notice the discoloration in the top picture....look at the worn detail around the edge of the top,and the spring would be resting there in the top...holding the pin inside until it is pulled...then the spikes come up...also it looks like it would have been connected to a chainmaybe...are you all seeing this stuff too?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: brass acorn

What is knurling for?? Only one reason, besides decoration, would be to grip with the finger and thumb, to turn maybe. I think if we could see inside we would see a valve and spring. A valve that can be repaired. Why else would it have knurling? It almost looks worn, like Michelle said. It comes apart. I wish I could see the bottom.

I wonder if it may be some kind of gas lantern valve. The holes being for metering the flow. Pressure regulated by the spring.

 

[mojjax]

Re: brass acorn

Maybe it's supposed to go into the soft rubber body of a large squid or eel lure .It's drawn up into the head area - pull on it to pre set the holes in the rubber , then go fishing for some stripers or tuna .I just wonder if the prongs lock after its pulled on , or it wouldn't work if the line got slack .
mojjax

 

[Steve001]

Re: brass acorn

I sent these photos to my brother a part time antique dealer he said the acorn motif was popular during the Victorian era.

 

[dg39]

Re: brass acorn

Told you what is was several times now. Look back through the posts. I just gave it a funny name... I think even doc tends to agree. I said I was out of this, But I just cant help myself!

 

[dg39]

Re: brass acorn

Home run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(But what about the plunger or shaft?)

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: brass acorn

Boy oh Boy! What a bunch of engineers. There is no way to attach anything to the two holes that the spikes come out thru, no evidence of any kind of tight seals, and this little thing swings on brass rings!

This is some kind of regulating valve You're putting me on! I'm going swimming.

Doc

Calm down doc. I am not insulted by someone of your intelligence, that is for sure. Are you really a doctor? The two/three holes can be a pressure release to the open air. It doesn't have to attach to anything, and I told you now 3x that there may be a hole on the side we cannot see. You have a bad habit of not reading everything. I said if we could open it we might find a replaceable seal. But, Doc, I was just guessing. No need for insults.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: brass acorn

Sorry if insult was taken. I thought after everything that had been discussed and dismissed that the idea that it was anything but a container of some kind was a foregone conclusion. Again, my apologies.

Doc

I'm really not insulted, just frustrated trying to make you understand, but thanks anyway. 8)
Maybe it is a pounce pot, I have to think on it. If we could open it, we would not have to guess what was inside. As far as a container being a foregone conclusion at the time, I was giving you something else to consider, that we cannot see the bottom. My example pic from a pressure cooker will appear to have a round bottom with no openings, but in second pic we find out it does. That is the point I was trying to make. Get it?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: brass acorn

Yep. I understand what you were driving at.
Doc

The round bottom could be an illusion. The knurling means that it opens for some reason. But I see your point also. YOU are probably right. It doesn't really appear to have connections or holes.

The rings and stem do appear like an open air spring type pressure release though that can be pulled out .

I have to go back and read your long post on pounce pots. I am a little slow.

 

[DigEmAll]

Re: brass acorn

A pounce pot is a "salt shaker" for pumice or other finely ground dark powder. You shake the powder onto the paper when there was to much ink applied accidentally, in order to keep the ink from spreading. The powder acted as a coagulant and clotted the ink, so to speak. The pot would sit on the lid so as to be in the upright position. Otherwise the powder would be all over the desk. It's not a pounce pot.

FOUL BALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The trout popper is the only other idea that I have read so far that I can see as being feasible. Although as a fishing instrument I would have expected the spikes to be a bit sharper.

The lid doesn't look as if it was removed much, so I am guessing that it was only removed to put the guts inside. And I think the wear on the shaft is from the in and out motion and not from turning.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: brass acorn

I see that. Also, the shaft has some wear on it. It seems that it rotated.

I feel that it is tool to drop items down a hole or shaft and when it touched bottom it retracted the spikes and left the lowered items there. Perhaps, to deliver tools to workers.

It more than likely turned as it was being lowered and created the wear.

Tony.

Not a bad idea. It would work. That would explain why the bottom is not flat. I could use something like that when I'm working on roof a/C units and have several loads of tools to bring up and down. It is kinda small though.
Maybe this is one of those worthless inventions that never caught on.