Bullet ID help

[diggerranger]

I found this bullet in same area as the two musket balls. I thought it was a post civil war bullet but I noticed it was same caliber as the musket balls about .43 caliber. Strange thing is I found two of the same bullet

 

[fyrffytr1]

Post a picture of the bottom, please.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Most musket balls were .58 caliber in the Civil War.

Possibly a .43 Egyptian, .43 Spanish or 11mm Mauser. All were imported (or made in the US - Remington rolling block for instance). Ammo was cheap . . . er.

 

[pistol-pete]

I would say from the shape and length that it is a 45-70 500 grain Bullet which would be .458" dia = 11.6 mm what your metric caliper shows. If you can weigh it in grains that would be the clincher. Could also be 405 grains You have to weigh it. Could be anywhere from 1870's to 1950's

 

[Harrison]

I’ve seen a few of these on various civil war blogs. Unfortunately they are all listed under different names so I don’t know what it’s truly called. Google search 4 ring civil war bullet and see what you can find. Looks like it could be a sharps carbine of some sort?¿

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Intended just as some friendly corrections.
First... actually, the great majority of musketballs used in the civil war were .69-caliber, not .58-caliber.
Second... the bullet cannot be a .45-70 bullet, because the photos show its diameter is between 10 and 11 millimeters (approximately .40 to .44-inch). But .45-70 bullets were made for use in a .45"-bore Breechloader rifle, so they measure approximately .47-inch in diameter.

Also, all of the .45-70 bullets I've ever seen have only three body-grooves, not four, as the photos show on this bullet.

Trying to help ID it correctly, I hunted through all the .40 and .41-caliber bullets at the Cartridge Collector website. But none of those calibers there match up with this bullet's peculiar shape of nose. It isn't flat-tipped, and it isn't "round-tipped" either. Best description I can think of is a "

blunt-ish rounded" nose. ​

There seems to be no exact .40 or .41-caliber match for it at Cartridge Collector.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

'Ya got me. The "Rifled-Musket" caliber was commonly 0.58" (0.577") for Minié balls (conical bullets), but the round musket balls (used by Confederate M1842 smoothbores) were 0.69" bore - slightly less diameter ball.

 

[diggerranger]

Ty- I found a view Civil war bullets and Revolutionary war musket balls but this has me stumped. Just find it odd

 

[Tedyoh]

Might not be that old at all.....?

www.buffaloarms.com/bullet-moulds/b...rease-groove-bullet-moulds/2-cav-moulds-42-45