Button experts, any ideas?

[JAMT225]

Not sure if I should try cleaning front any more?

 

[CRUSADER]

no amount of cleaning will bring up a blank front. Looks early US 1820s-30s by the look of the Eagle. nice button (not an expert opinion & based on similar looking items on here) Someone with the books will chime in 8)

 

[Iron Patch]

no amount of cleaning will bring up a blank front.

I think I'd get a second opinion.


I like the early eagle backmark!

 

[JAMT225]

It could be very worn and faint as the eagles feet are. Might have been an early uniform button used in CW?

 

[CRUSADER]

It could be very worn and faint as the eagles feet are. Might have been an early uniform button used in CW?

definitely could be faint but cleaning won't bring up faintness

 

[JAMT225]

I didn't want to do it any harm since appears so early, whatever may be there can wait for the right cleaning technique.

 

[Iron Patch]

I didn't want to do it any harm since appears so early, whatever may be there can wait for the right cleaning technique.

Enjoy it as is, because that's the best it's going to be. As started above you need something to clean, to be able to clean, and there is nothing on the face of the button but the metal surface. If there was a way we'd gladly tell you, but there is not. The backmark is what makes it a neat find.

 

[CRUSADER]

I didn't want to do it any harm since appears so early, whatever may be there can wait for the right cleaning technique.

Enjoy it as is, because that's the best it's going to be. As started above you need something to clean, to be able to clean, and there is nothing on the face of the button but the metal surface. If there was a way we'd gladly tell you, but there is not. The backmark is what makes it a neat find.

 

[Don in SJ]

I always group the buttons with eagles, feathers, crowns, etc together in my collection, all of them are blank on the front side so displaying them as b/m types is the way to go on them.

Here is a sentence or two from Tice's Dating Buttons books on this type button and their backmarks.

As the 1790s neared their end, some English makers used backmarks------containing decorative elements such as laurel wreaths. Beginning around 1800, backmarks often included icons such as eagles, feathers, and crowns. The use of eagles and the U.S. Navy device in backmarks was a ploy by English manufacturers appealing to American patriotism.

Basically when I seen plain faced buttons with eagles and the other devices mentioned I consider them 1800-1820era.

Don

 

[CRUSADER]

I always group the buttons with eagles, feathers, crowns, etc together in my collection, all of them are blank on the front side so displaying them as b/m types is the way to go on them.

Here is a sentence or two from Tice's Dating Buttons books on this type button and their backmarks.

As the 1790s neared their end, some English makers used backmarks------containing decorative elements such as laurel wreaths. Beginning around 1800, backmarks often included icons such as eagles, feathers, and crowns. The use of eagles and the U.S. Navy device in backmarks was a ploy by English manufacturers appealing to American patriotism.

Basically when I seen plain faced buttons with eagles and the other devices mentioned I consider them 1800-1820era.

Don

Good info, earlier than I expected

 

[IronSpike]

Nice button JAMT225

Looks like the one Daryl found:

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,274020.0.html

 

[vayank54]

I know buttons pretty well and would have to pretty much agree with the 1800 to 1820 dates. Maybe a few years one way or the other.

 

[JAMT225]

Thanks for the help everyone