button help. can someone id this?

[thsfineday]

found this button yesterday and i need help with an id.

 

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[Montana Jim]

US Army "Great Seal" uniform button. It's the standard design used since 1902 and looks modern... can better be dated if you post a picture of the back of the button.

And - welcome to TreasureNet!

 

[Woodland Detectors]

Hi. It's a General service button from 1902 used still today. If you shoot us a picture of the back you may get an approximate date. The "book" is the writing for Identification on the back. HHHH

 

[IronSpike]

Welcome to Tnet thsfineday

Nice Great Seal Button

Here's a good link for ID:

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,212590.0.html

 

[Woodland Detectors]

Jim! I almost beat you for the first time ever! You are too fast

 

[Montana Jim]

Jim! I almost beat you for the first time ever! On the ID

LOL

 

[Don in SJ]

I think it is more fun letting Jim handle the "hard to ID" buttons.

Welcome to TNet "thsfineday". A wealth of knowledge here.

Don

 

[thsfineday]

the link that you sent me to was for a different button, mine is the size of a quarter and writing on the back which is very hard to read, can make out the word "newark" but there is more.

 

[cosmic]

Maybe art metal works.. 1900-1930 then name was changed to ronson art metal works....Turned into ronson lighters..

 

[IronSpike]

Post a good clear pic of the back

 

[Woodland Detectors]

the link that you sent me to was for a different button, mine is the size of a quarter and writing on the back which is very hard to read, can make out the word "newark" but there is more.

Yeah but, A great seal button is a "great seal" Button....We couldn't tell you any more because there was no pic of the back where the "key" for specific identification is. HHHH

 

[IronSpike]

the link that you sent me to was for a different button, mine is the size of a quarter and writing on the back which is very hard to read, can make out the word "newark" but there is more.

Yeah but, A great seal button is a "great seal" Button....We couldn't tell you any more because there was no pic of the back where the "key" for specific identification is. HHHH

Could be a new one

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

the link that you sent me to was for a different button, mine is the size of a quarter and writing on the back which is very hard to read, can make out the word "newark" but there is more.

The link was good. The Great Seal buttons come in several sizes, "One style for all arms and all grades, private to Lt. General. The only exception is the Engineer Corps, who are to retain their present design. Bronze for service and gilt for dress. The design is a copy of the great seal of the U.S." http://metaldetectingworld.com/05_photo_gallery/05_great_seal_but_1902/index.htm Without the pic of the backmark, we are only guessing. Look through this list there are several NEWARK button backmarks that may match up. Welcome to TN.


1- SCOVILL MF'G CO WATERBURY (back ungilted) WWI (1850-1865 backmark)
2- SCOVILL MF'G CO WATERBURY WWI (1850-1865 backmark)
3- SCOVILL MF'G CO. * WATERBURY * 1902-1918 (1870s-? backmark)
4- SCOVILL MF'G CO. WATERBURY CT. WWI (1870s-? backmark)
5- SCOVILL M'FG CO. WATERBURY (ring of dots) 1902 (1860-1880 backmark)
6- WATERBURY BUTTON CO. * 1849-1965
7- WATERBURY BUTTON CO. *CONN.* pre 1965
8- WATERBURY COS INC CONN post 1965
9- W W W W (waterbury) modern
10- W.B. CO.
11- CITY BUTTON WORKS - N.Y.- WWI
12- CITY BUTTON WORKS- NEW YORK- 1877-1923
13- US PRODUCTS CORP
14- R. LIEBMANN MFG CO WWI
15 R. LIEBMANN MFG. CO.-NEWARK NJ-
16- R.L. MFG Co Newark N.J.
17- THE AUSTIN CO. PROVIDENCE R.I.
18- HORSTMANN *** PHILA *** 1893-1935
19- ARNSTEIN SIMON & CO. * S.F. * WWI
20- N.S. MEYERS * NEW YORK * 1906-2000 (in business in NY)
21- AMERICAN BUTTON CO. *NEWARK N.J.* 1901-1920
22- AM. BUTTON CO *NEWARK, N.J.* 1902-1917
23- AMERICAN EMBLEM CO. UTICA N.Y. WWI
24- C KENYON CO. NEW YORK WWI- 1930
25- UNIQUE ART MFG CO. NEWARK, N. J.
26- ART METAL WORKS INC -NEWARK, N.J.- 1900-1930 approx.
27- METAL SPECIALTIES Co. ATTLESBURG, MASS. 1940-1945 (painted black)
28- CHAS. FISCHER SPG. CO. NEW YORK WWII?
29- * SUPERIOR QUALITY *
30- GREENWOOD CO * DETROIT MICH *
31- COL BUT WKS RUTHERFORD N.J. WWI
32- COLUMBIA BUTTON WKS*RUTHERFORD,N.J.* WWI
33- NEW YORK BUTTON WORKS WWI (found in France)
34- S & J WATERBURY CT. WWI (found in France)
35- STEELE & JOHNSON * WATERBURY CT * WWI (found in France)
36- JEWELERS PRODUCTS CORP. PROV. R.I. WWI (found in France)
37- SUPREME 172 QUALITY
38- REX PRODUCTS CORP * NEW ROCHELLE, N.Y. * 1902-WWII
39- D. EVANS & CO. * NO. ATTLEBORO, MASS. 1848-1945
40- D. EVANS & CO. N.A. WWI (found in France)
41- D. EVANS & CO ATTLEBORO FALLS WWI
42- * SUPERIOR QUALITY *
43- MADE IN ENGLAND (anodized aluminum front)
44- S. EISENER CO. RED BANK N.J. WWI (in business1859-1925)
45- CORD C22
46- TIFFANY & CO. MAKERS ** M ** (14K gold blazer) 1907-1947

 

[thsfineday]

after alittle work with some olive oil, was able to get more writing to come clear. reads "american button co newark".

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Thats a WWI button, 2 piece, lined field.