Can you say "Banner"?

[cintisteve]

Can you say "Banner"?

If this isnt a Banner I wont be coming any closer. Found this coin in a soccer field this. I have found a couple large cents there; including a no date flowing hair. Never thought I would be finding silver as well. Thought it was a reale but now not sure. The date is plain enough to see;1768.. Havent cleaned; a little scared too.Any help identifying the coin and possible value would be greatly appreciated. Sorry ; I can get any better pics with my camera. Thanks

Steve

 

[rebeljim52]

Re: Can you say "Banner"?

need better pic.great find.

 

[briankb70]

Re: Can you say "Banner"?

nice find

 

[ggossage]

Re: Can you say "Banner"?

I can't help with the ID as I'm sure others can't without more detail--not without better photos. Consequently, if you do desire a place on the banner, deserved or not, you won't get it with your current photos. Take a look at the banner and look at the quality of those photos--aim for similar quality, and you may hit your target. If it is a reale, we won't know the denomination without obv & rev photos. Good luck, and I look forward to seeing a possible banner find!

 

[Kyle PA]

Re: Can you say "Banner"?

It is the Milled Pillar type. If it is the size of a dime, it is a half real. A one real would be the size of a nickel and a two reales would be about the size of a quarter.

Congrats on a great find!

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: Can you say "Banner"?

Great old silver! Lets see some better pics!

 

[time4me]

Re: Can you say "Banner"?

WOW! Let's see some better pics!!! Congrats on such an oldie!

 

[cintisteve]

Re: Can you say "Banner"? _Better Pics

Here is some better detail.HH

Steve

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: Can you say "Banner"?

Yep, you got Spanish!

It's strange we find reales here but never that type.

 

[romeo-1]

Re: Can you say "Banner"?

Mexico mint...1 reale I think. Nice find!

 

[MUD(S.W.A.T)]

Re: Can you say "Banner"?

I hope I find one someday !

Keep @ It and HH !!

 

[The Patriot]

Re: Can you say "Banner"?

Doesn't get much better than finding one of those... I love the rush...

 

[fistfulladirt]

Re: Can you say "Banner"?

Nice! I just dug one here in Michigan. Mine is worn reale thin! ffd

 

[Brian(upstateNY-Central Fla.)]

Re: Can you say "Banner"?

Sweeet silver there

 

[SoreKneesDayton]

Re: Can you say "Banner"?

I voted you a banner Steve. Hope that was from Cinncy and not Miamisburg...too close to me...lol

SKD

 

[ggossage]

Re: Can you say "Banner"?

Way to go Steve! Awesome find! Enjoy the rush! Thanks for the pictures!

 

[cintisteve]

Re: Can you say "Banner"?

A Spanish colonial silver coin, minted in Potosí in 1768, featuring the columns and the hemispheres.Columnarios are silver coins that were minted by Spain from 1732 to 1773 throughout their new colonies in present-day Latin America. While the majority of columnarios were struck in Mexico, smaller mints existed in Guatemala; Lima, Peru; Santiago, Chile; and Potosí, Bolivia. The base denomination is an 8 reales coin. Other minor denominations included 4 reales, 2 reales, 1 real, and 1/2 real. The 8 reales coin is the predecessor to the American dollar. Before the United States Mint was in production, columnarios circulated, along with other coinage, in the US colonies.

Prior to the columnario, coins were hammer struck. There are called cobs. Clipping was a problem with cobs as it was easy to shave small amounts of silver from the edge of these coins and although this action was punishable by death, it was a widespread problem. The columnario, unlike the odd-shaped cob, is round coin with milled edges which makes clipping detectable.

The design of the columnario consists on the reverse of two worlds -- representing the new world and old world -- with a royal crown above. Below are the waves of the sea that separate the worlds and on left and right are columns (hence the name columnarios) representing the Pillars of Hercules adorned with crowns and wrapped with a banner spelling "PLUS ULTRA", meaning "more beyond". The reverse also has the letters VTRAQUE VNUM, referring to the Old and New Worlds, "Both are One", and the date at the bottom, with mint marks on both sides.

The obverse features the crown's name followed by D G HISPAN ET IND REX, meaning, "By the Grace of God, King of Spain and the West Indies." The assayer's mark is on the left and the denomination on the right of a large Spanish shield which is adorned with a royal crown atop. Various florets, rosettes, stops, and other features are used to separate features.

The edge has a repeating laurel leaf design which is very difficult to counterfeit and is often used for authentication purposes.

Currently, the Mexican 8 reales columnario is worth $200USD or more, depending on condition

 

[RiverRat3]

Re: Can you say "Banner"?

Wow, great find!

 

[1491]

Re: Can you say "Banner"?

Congrats! Details! We want details! How deep was it? What did it sound off as? Whaddya think ya had before you dug the hole?

 

[aa battery]

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