Cannonball Button ID needed (new pics) solved

[Woodland Detectors]

Cheers, Check this button out. It was dug in the "old neck of the woods" of NC. Pretty nifty huh? Thanks.

 

[trikikiwi]

Re: Cannonball Button ID Please

Grapes



Mike

 

[creskol]

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Is there lettering on the spheres or is it just part of a design I am seeing?

Very cool button by the way! Nice find!

 

[Woodland Detectors]

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Hmmm no, they are just little holes in either the "grapes' or shot. But, do you see the backmark?

 

[Alchemy]

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There is a site that talks about a Spanish Artilleryman's cuff button - with a crown, crossed cannon and stack of cannon balls
(On the left, 3rd button down)

http://www.angelfire.com/fl/battleshipmaine/museum.html

My guess is that this piece is stacked cannon balls (button or cuff button)

 

[Tony in SC]

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Nice button, very old. I don't which "Old Neck" you found it in but you do know that Desoto traveled through South Carolina and parts of North Carolina. Tony

 

[Montana Jim]

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This has no military conotation... IMO.

It's a decorative/fashion civilian button... cresent moon, beams, cannonballs?

Can't find one like it of course..

 

[IronSpike]

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We need a better pic of the back mark. Pic only shows cannon ball or grape.

 

[IronSpike]

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Maybe clean the back a little? It looks like other area's of back may also have markings.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

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A curious button, Mike. I cant help you. It reminds me of the Pakistani flag or Turkey. I wonder if there is a connection with pre-1947 Pakistan or British Colonial rule? ..very wild guess
....or any connection with the crescent of Islam? It does look like cannonballs.

This is the only Crescent button I could find so far.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

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Forget about Islam. Try working this angle. The Crescent is used on the South Carolina state flag.

http://americancivilwar.com/statepic/south_carolina.html

the South Carolina State Flag harkens back to the crescent worn by her troops in the American Revolution


The first flag for South Carolinas independence. http://www.next1000.com/family/EC/am.revolution.sc.html

 

[naturegirl]

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I thought of a rising or setting sun intead of a "cresent".

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

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The rays make it look like a sun, but I see a crescent shape and I think the connection with Carolina cannot be ignored.

Clues:

1- a crescent shape (worn by Carolina troops during the American Revolution and on the state flag)
2- found in North Carolina
3- cannonballs or grapes
4- sun rays or sun rising

 

[Montana Jim]

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BTW - those are not backmarks, they are marks left from the mold IMO.

 

[Woodland Detectors]

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Wow, you are absolutely correct Jim. after your post I cleaned it a bit and checked it under the loupe. Good eye! But, Now I see another mark lol. Here are a couple pics

 

[Montana Jim]

Re: Cannonball Button ID Please (new pics)

Made in China... LOL

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: Cannonball Button ID Please

This has no military conotation... IMO.

It's a decorative/fashion civilian button... cresent moon, beams, cannonballs?

Can't find one like it of course..

You are probably right on the decorative/fashion civilian button, but I think its possible to have a connection with the Carolinas. The crescent and balls may have a meaning. Are there numbers on them?

Here is a stack of 10 cannonballs on an Artillery button. Im still searching for cannonballs and crescent on the same button.

 

[Woodland Detectors]

Re: Cannonball Button ID Please (new pics)

Negative, No numbers.

 

[West Jersey Detecting]

Re: Cannonball Button ID Please (new pics)

Based on those types of mold marks and the visible seam, I would have to say "modern".

 

[Woodland Detectors]

Re: Cannonball Button ID Please (new pics)

Ok, enough then. we will call it solved.