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[JT]

By the way I have a Map of Oregon showing EVERY minerial deposit evey found in Oregon and a few that have not been claimed. NOT YET that is.

I'm confused. If your dowsing technique worked, you should be able to pinpoint every single gold or platinum hit in your lease area in Oregon. Likewise, you should be able use any map to dowse treasure offshore Florida, including your "shipwrecks" in the river area. Have you dowsed your "shipwreck" areas yet?

 

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[Peg Leg]

JT,
You think you are confused try sitting in my chair.
Here is how I start.
I pick an area.
I then concentrate on that area.
I then pass my hand (open) over that area very slowly.
I pay very close attention to what I feel.
By the way I first put a sheet of clear plastic over the map/chart. This is so I can mark it when I feel a spot that is of interest without messing up the map.
I then start my serious dowsing.
As far as Oregon is concerned there was no reason to dowse the area because I had already found gold.
You must remember that when dowsing you are looking for a small area and for a particular item.
No matter how good someone is you must also remember that if you are looking for say "gold" you may also come across every Pawn Shop and Jewelry Store which would take you years to complete and chances are you will never finish the project.
I think this was the reason that I stopped doing this over 30 years ago. It just got to be to much of a strain and don't forget YOU MUST CHECK OUT EVERYTHING and you must do this when things are quite which means that there can be NO disturbance. You must disconnect your phone.
I have 6 grown children and 13 Grandchildren with 2 Grand kids living with me so the only time I can work is after everyone is asleep. I must also add that this is very stressfull and frustrating at times and sometimes very rewarding.
I have never tried to locate a shipwreck anywhere and as far as my Ghost wreck I was given the general location from day one.
Everyone has a GOD GIVEN TALENT it just takes a while to find out what it is.
Hope this explains a few things.
Peg Leg

 

[riobravo]

hi don,
i have all the charts you are refering to and when i get back we can get together again and see what develops

 

[JT]

If your ghost wreck has gold or silver on it, couldn't you dowse a map with those coordinates and see what it shows?

I've heard of people dowsing, "water witching", etc, I've just never actually seen it done.

 

[stevemc]

I have never heard of anyone dowsing a map for treasure and it working. Some friends are in a club or were in a club for dowsers. They wanted to see if it was true, and so far, none of the club members have found anything! And they have dug deep! But try it and we'll see. Some people seem to be good at dowsing for water, but I have yet to see anyone find anything of value by dowsing. I dont like to sound like a spoil sport, but I just havent seen it work. I am not a negative person, so lets see if you can do it! Try to dowse and lets check it out!

 

[Peg Leg]

Pete, This is fine with me, can hardly wait.

stevemc.
When you get a group of people together like a Club you have a room filled with all kinds of NEG energy. They all have a NEW TOY to show everyone that they just purchased from someone else-maybe even off ebay.. These type of get togethers are nothing but a SOCIAL EVENT. I went to only ONE a long time ago.
I like games as much as anyone else but when it comes to the REAL THING playtime is over.
I said at the beginning that this was a TEST. I have never done this over water before so until I try I have no idea if I can do it or not but it is worth a best effort try on my part.
You do recall my gold coins . I never used a MD
Can't tell you how I found what I found because I would be put into a rubber room. But I will give you a little hint.
I sense certain things. I can be driving down the road and KNOW where there was a old homesite without stopping and going to look. When I first started doing this I would stop and check it out and 90% of the time I could walk right to the homesite.
I guess it boils down to what you have trained yourself to do and to believe in oneself.
For many years I was to involved in trying to make a living so everything was put on the back burner and it just sat there until a few weeks ago.
Now I have the time to rekindle this gift and see where it will lead me.
I have also been told all my life that I cannot use this gift to get rich or I would lose it. I do not plan on getting rich but a few extra dollars will not hurt either.
I have a point to make and could care less it others make tons of money. I know that I talk about money all the time-SO WHAT?
Peg leg

 

[Jimi D Pirate]

I'm with Tom (Wreckdiver1715) dowse the map he shows: A MAJOR target some day someone will find the San Jose!!! I wish it would be one of our mutual friends. When the government and timing is right we must be there ... but for now it's the Concepcion, laying ,waiting right outside our backdoor! Jimi D

 

[Chagy]

Don, there is a large concentration of Gold and Silver some place within the area covered by this chart. Please pin point it and I will give you a healthy percentage. You have to be very accurate with the location. If we linger to long the Gun Boats will be on us very quickly, and we will most likely not live to tell the tail.

Tom

WD1715

I have been there.....have you heard the story of the locals that found the French wreck with bronze cannons in Tierra Bomba....

All the best,

Chagy........

 

[Peg Leg]

Morning everyone,
What a day this is going to be.

wd1715,
The the map you posted would it be possible to tell me its location so that I can download and print out a photo of the area and then piece it together to make a really large photo the whole area.
I can Google and use NASA WIND thing and get a pretty good idea of the area of interest.
Last night I had a few thoughts about a lot of things and theis is what I realised.
Charts and maps are fine but a Photo captures the essence of everything that is there. I recall a time when Native Americans would not let their pictures taken because they believed that it would capture their spirit or soul. When I was in Africa I came across a number of Native that felt the same way. When I was in Tueson AZ I was invited to PASQUE VILLAGE which is on a small YAKEE Res. west of Tueson. I was invited into the hut of the Medicine Man-the only white man ever to do this. I had a camera with me but he would not allow any photos to be taken of him. He told me that a picture captures the essence of the person being photographed. I now believe that there is more to this than can ever be explained. I just accept this as the truth.
But what this tells me is a number of things that I need to check into and that is getting an AREIAL PHOTO of areas of interest but a SAT PHOTO is much better and a lot cheaper.
As you all know I have a Borther In Law that works at the Space Center and he has access to tons of SAT photos (non classified that is). They have one SAT photo that covers all of the State of Florida. This photo is about 36" x 36". What you have to do is pick out an area that you are interested in and draw a ONE INCH square and they can enlarge this to a 36" x 36" photo.
I did this several years ago (25 to be exact) on my Turnbull Hammock search and by the way I DID dowse this area and have several interesting reactions. Before you start ASKING A LOT OF QUESTIONS let me say that what I am looking for is about 12' deep since Gold drops abot 4" a year and this was put there about 80 years ago. The hardpan is 12' down. Before I start there are 2 things that is needed. A deep seeking MD and a way to recover this gold.
Within the next month I expect to have all the SAT photos that I will need from Cocoa Beach to Vero Beach.
I will do not want anything showing shipwrecks or what has been recovered so far. I think that it may influenece (in some way) my thinking.
wd1715
I would love to have the cords of your project just to see if I can come up with something.
Thanks everyone.
More later.
Peg Leg

 

[Chagy]

Peg,

Thats Cartagena Colombia.........

Chagy....

 

[Peg Leg]

Now I uderstand about the Gunboats. BAD BAD PLACE for doing anything.
Peg Leg

 

[diver420]

Peg,
I tried your system, the only problem was I have a slight
natural shake when I hung the plump bob. So I had a
couple of beers to calm the shake. After this all the plumb
bob would point out were the liquor stores on the map.
Would this drinking of beers have an effect on the pointer?
Or is there a bunch of gold buried under the booze stores?

 

[Peg Leg]

My friends this is funny.
However I DO take this SEIOUS but am not against a little humor. In fact I expect much worse in the days to come.
How funny is it going to be when I DO locate a shipwreck
What I can't understand is how you made the Plum Bob from the beer or how Cornelius made his from wine.
WAIT I think I know how you guys did it. You must have dipped the thread into the liquid. What a mess with it dripping all over the place or you applied VIAGRA to the thread.
Peg Leg

 

[Peg Leg]

Cornelius,
Have you ever seen where Mother Nature puts an X on the water but this X is very very large.
Do you recall telling SEAHUNTER to go Southeast of where they were working at Jupiter Inlet.
Well I did some scans of the ocean and found where Mother Nature had made an X and in the middle of this X is a mound-not a reef but a round mound.
I sent SEAHUNTER the cords so he can check it out for himself.
There are some here that will find what I am talking about so I need to tell them to check out the size of the waves. This is NOT the wake of a boat. There are to big and go way to far.
To me it looks like where a RIP TIDE came together. Very very unusal. It is Southeast of Jupiter.
I gave Scott the cords within 3 feet. I even measured the distance from a parking lot on shore and gave the cords from there.
It is close to 780 yards SSE from where the Enterprise sits in the scan.
You will have to pay close attention to the ocean waves or you will miss it.
Since Scott already has a lease I do not mind posting this information.
I used Google Earth.
There is also a reef with what looks like 3 large Blow holes on the east of the reef. The reef is a little further south from the X.
If anyone finds this X please tell me what you think.
Thanks
Peg Leg

 

[wreckdiver1715]

Pegleg, the chart that I posted is Columbia - Punta San Bernardo to Punta Baru. Specifically in the area of the Islas Del Rosario.
I have many contacts down there, and some government contacts. However, even the military is weary of this particular location. Some day this will all change, and when that day comes, Jimi D Pirate, myself and lots of others will be racing to recover a very big prize.

Tom

 

[Peg Leg]

If the Government is Leary about going into this area I can only assume it is controlled by the Drug Cartel or Terrorist. This IS BAD NEWS.
I wonder if a deal could be made with the Colombian Government to secure their permission to work this area IF you were to remove the BAD GUYS.
This can be done with the right people and equipment and both are available.
Check out BALLISTIC MAXIMUS.
They have everthing you would need.
I am just thinking out loud here. Just showing there are ways. BUT of course it will take some BIG BUCKS.
Do you have any idea on the value of what you may recover?
Later
Peg Leg

 

[Salvor6]

Hey Peg Leg, this area is the wreck of the San Jose. It carried 11 million pesos when it blew up. The value is estimated at over $2 billion. The problem is that the depth here is 750 feet and the explosion scattered the wreck over a wide area.

 

[Peg Leg]

The question that I have is how wide an area could this scatter cover?
I believe that the 740 foot water depth may first appear to be a major problem but with todays technology I do not see this as somehting that cannot be overcome with the right equipment. The right equipment would consist of a CRANE with a special alloy bucket or Clam Sheal.
I see this recovery done in stages. I see where this bucket or scraper would pick up material and deposit it onto a underwater screen or sharker and then you could bring the shaker to the surface. The weight of the sand would no have a effect becuase there would be no sand to worry about.
OR
You can just suck the material like a dredge but modified to where you leave all the sand on the bottom. I am writing as I see how this could be done so forget the mistakes that I will no doubt make.
Look at the way cement is transported on a construction site. The weight of cement is a lot heavier than the sand you would be dealing with.
If you can construct some type of platform under your work bardge in the water you could suck up everything you could find and dump it onto the underwater platform. The recovery platform would allow the sand to fall back down and would retain everything else. You would then raise the platform and clean everything off and start again.
The work barge could be similar to what SEAHUNTER is planning to build.
Of course you would have to sign a deal with the Colombian Government and they of course would provide all the security you would need with maybe a couple of Gunboats and a few men on the work bardge.
But that might be the hardess thing in this whole matter to do.
I assume that since the depth of the water is known then the actual location of where this ship blew up is known also? right or wrong?
This would be a GREAT ADVENTURE.
lATER
Peg leg

 

[Peg Leg]

With the possibility of more wrecks in the chart/map area I need at least to know where to start. To dowse the whole area on the chart would take a very long time but I am willing to give it a shot.
Better yet DO NOT give me anything but a copy of the chart itself. I do not want to influence anything.
I will mark all the hits and then you can match that with the information you already have and THEN you can decide which area should be concentrated on.
BUT I will still need a copy of the chart as big as I can get it or even parts so that I can put them together to make the chart big enough to work with.
I can't do any better than that.
Later
Peg Leg

 

[mad4wrecks]

The archaeologists would love your crane and clam sheal (sic) bucket idea Don! Just dig into the wreck and bring up the loot.

Actually, they have slightly better technology for recovery in 750 feet of seawater. Things like subs, ROV's, etc...