Close-Ups of Three Interesting Points

[OntarioArch]

Still practicing my smart phone photography skills, but here goes!
These three were rescued from Old Timers' Finger Lakes NY collections, but the lithic materials - maybe the points themselves - traveled from another State/Region, I would say. Using NYS typology, I would identify the lanceolate point as a Fox Creek; also shown is a pretty Adena; and a handsome Stark. Any input on the typology is more than welcomed!

 

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[uniface]

Agree. Side view settles it.

 

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[uniface]

Often wider toward the tip (after repeated resharpening)

https://www.occpaleo.com/product-page/crowfield-clovis-point-cast

http://archaeologymuseum.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Crowfield-On-Display.jpg

 

[OntarioArch]

Often wider toward the tip (after repeated resharpening)

https://www.occpaleo.com/product-page/crowfield-clovis-point-cast

http://archaeologymuseum.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Crowfield-On-Display.jpg

Interesting. But I see now that Crowfield does not quite fit. Crowfields are extremely rare, right?
Thank you for your expertise, Uni. Still love this point!

 

[uniface]

FWIW, When I looked at it, what I saw is a point on its way to being completed, but not there yet. With the high trans-facial arises thinned away, the hafting area constriction narrowed by final-finishing, the other side fluted like the first side and secondary thinning flakes removed (note multiple wide, shallow flutes like Redstones [probable contemporaries] often have) and the basal edge trued up, it could easily be one.

On the other hand, maybe not.

 

[uniface]

Wide range of shapes for Hi-Lo (scroll down) :

Projectile Point Typology and Dating ? Michigan Archaeological Society

More often than not, at least, on the small side, & made of locally available material

 

[OntarioArch]

Here's what Dr. Jonathan Lothrop, Curator of Native American Archeology at the NYS Museum had to say when I asked him if it could be a "Holcomb", a next of kin to a Crowfield: "I've looked over your photographs, and agree that based on the single slightly off-center flute on the one face of this point, it does bear some similarity to Holcombe/Cormier-Nicholas point forms, and so could be Late Paleoindian.

The one characteristic, however, that concerns me is that the lateral margins on your point are not clearly expanding as they typically do for these Holcombe/Cormier-Nicholas point forms. Having said that, there's a lot of internal variability in these late Paleoindian forms, so it could just be an outlier. As an isolated find, we will never really be able to say for sure, but your point could be late Paleoindian. Too bad provenience is unknown! "

 

[uniface]

Ran into a PhD dissertation I saved in doc. file that you would find very useful. Unfortunately can't just e-mail it as the computer's hacked & email's dysfunctional. But if I found it, you can.

Visualizing Paleoindian and Archaic Mobility in the Ohio Region of North America. Amanda N. Colucci, Kent State U., 2017. Good info on materials movement Ohio-NY-Penna.

FWIW

 

[OntarioArch]

Ran into a PhD dissertation I saved in doc. file that you would find very useful. Unfortunately can't just e-mail it as the computer's hacked & email's dysfunctional. But if I found it, you can.

Visualizing Paleoindian and Archaic Mobility in the Ohio Region of North America. Amanda N. Colucci, Kent State U., 2017. Good info on materials movement Ohio-NY-Penna.

FWIW

Got it - thanks, Uni !

 

[monsterrack]

Great points and for phone photos I've found a photo box on Amazon for 15$ with it's on light system,it works great.