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I usually don't post about anything like this but its about time. The drama on here has gone far enough. I don't have a problem with any one here. The fact is its starting to get like a soap opera. We are here to enjoy out hobby, learn from others, teach the beginners and show off our finds. Besides that I think we all would appreciate keeping the rest of the opinions to private messages. Sorry if I'm out of line posting my thoughts. Ben
 

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Talk about going overboard. Everybody go back and read my original post. It's that simple. Enjoy and relax. We are all here for the same reason. This is way outta control. This is not the crowd im used to. Lets put an end to it and get back to the artifacts. We are loosing good people over this when we could just let it go.
 

I have no clue what happened,but am glad I am not in the middle of this one....I hate being in these and have been in a couple lately,over things that still blow my mind.......not trespassing and expecting a thank you...gee,I am terrible...anyway,fighting sux,especially when very Valuable people are talking about leaving...there is not enough of your types around to lose you!!!Please,what ever happened,let it go.I know its hard and I have threatened to as well,but this place is like home because its the best forum on the Net....that is fact(espesially for identifing relcs)Use the "Ignore",option if ya have to,dont leave...that helps no one
 

....do what I do...when you get tired of nonsense....go back to lurking for a while....
 

Two words I stand by. Family friendly. If you cannot do that then you do not need to post. I have seen kids come in here with their first arrowhead and the so called "experts" tear into them and then back peddle when the child says "Hey I am only 14". " Oh sorry they say you should have told us". It is unacceptable by any member. I always came here to learn and share and hear opinions. We work hard to keep this forum flowing smoothly keeping pertinent information and we try to do it from the goodness of our heart. I consider everyone here a friend and look up to you all. Especially the new hunter who seeks mentors and seeks help in our hobby.
Thats all I am going to say on that.
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Consider this. Put in a single room folks that have laid into each other here, and discuss the very same topic that started a fight. Do you think things will get so out of hand? No. I'm willing to bet it would be completely civil as all the folks discuss their opinions. These peeing matches are an Internet phenomena. You don't hear the inflections in people's voices, you don't see expressions on people's faces. You can slip into saying something rotten without having to actually see the other person's reaction, so you do it. Discussing things on the Internet lays open the possibility of completely losing the cordiality that would not exist in a real life round table discussion. We're all in a room together discussing what will or might devalue an artifact. One person suggests oil will devalue, one says no way. In a real life social setting, do you think they are going to come to physical blows with each other or start screaming at each other? I seriously doubt it.
One thing I've noticed, and I've lapsed into this mode myself on forums at times: when someone disagrees with your opinion in a way that is interpreted as a threat to your credibility or is taken as a response that belittles your opinion,
it becomes very easy to let your anger show, and before you know it, the fight is on. When people disagree completely with someone's opinion, especially if the poster has obviously put a lot of effort into his/her comment, and obviously feels they are knowledgable, if you strongly disagree, don't reply in a way that so much as hints that you think that persons detailed comments were those of a clueless idiot. Simply disagree respectfully with facts that you feel contradict the posters observations. The original poster can then not feel belittled and not feel he/she has to defend themselves, rather then defend their observations. Bottom line: none of these peeing matches would get so out of hand in a real life setting, where people are far more likely to behave politely to counter arguments.

The same guy you get into a sharp and nasty exchange with is just as likely to be the same guy you'd enjoy sitting down and having a beer with if you actually knew him.

The person you belittle, or who feels he's been belittled, has self respect and an ego like every other human being, and that ego will usually react when it feels it has been belittled.
 

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Luckily the Mods didn't sign up for a popularity contest... Darned if you do, darned if you don't.

I think the Mods here have been doing a good job of not letting things get out of hand. I stopped visiting when it got really bad a while back, and I have noticed a huge improvement since two of our own took up the Mod role. It's rough when an educational post like Hippy's gets caught in the collateral damage, but give the mods a chance and they'll clean up the issues.
 

Consider this. Put in a single room folks that have laid into each other here, and discuss the very same topic that started a fight. Do you think things will get so out of hand? No. I'm willing to bet it would be completely civil as all the folks discuss their opinions. These peeing matches are an Internet phenomena. You don't hear the inflections in people's voices, you don't see expressions on people's faces. You can slip into saying something rotten without having to actually see the other person's reaction, so you do it. Discussing things on the Internet lays open the possibility of completely losing the cordiality that would not exist in a real life round table discussion. We're all in a room together discussing what will or might devalue an artifact. One person suggests oil will devalue, one says no way. In a real life social setting, do you think they are going to come to physical blows with each other or start screaming at each other? I seriously doubt it.
One thing I've noticed, and I've lapsed into this mode myself on forums at times: when someone disagrees with your opinion in a way that is interpreted as a threat to your credibility or is taken as a response that belittles your opinion,
it becomes very easy to let your anger show, and before you know it, the fight is on. When people disagree completely with someone's opinion, especially if the poster has obviously put a lot of effort into his/her comment, and obviously feels they are knowledgable, if you strongly disagree, don't reply in a way that so much as hints that you think that persons detailed comments were those of a clueless idiot. Simply disagree respectfully with facts that you feel contradict the posters observations. The original poster can then not feel belittled and not feel he/she has to defend themselves, rather then defend their observations. Bottom line: none of these peeing matches would get so out of hand in a real life setting, where people are far more likely to behave politely to counter arguments.

The same guy you get into a sharp and nasty exchange with is just as likely to be the same guy you'd enjoy sitting down and having a beer with if you actually knew him.

The person you belittle, or who feels he's been belittled, has self respect and an ego like every other human being, and that ego will usually react when it feels it has been belittled.

Bravo!.....Bravo!
 

Quote(One thing I've noticed, and I've lapsed into this mode myself on forums at times: when someone disagrees with your opinion in a way that is interpreted as a threat to your credibility or is taken as a response that belittles your opinion,
it becomes very easy to let your anger show, and before you know it, the fight is on. When people disagree completely with someone's opinion, especially if the poster has obviously put a lot of effort into his/her comment, and obviously feels they are knowledgable, if you strongly disagree, don't reply in a way that so much as hints that you think that persons detailed comments were those of a clueless idiot. Simply disagree respectfully with facts that you feel contradict the posters observations. The original poster can then not feel belittled and not feel he/she has to defend themselves, rather then defend their observations. Bottom line: none of these peeing matches would get so out of hand in a real life setting, where people are far more likely to behave politely to counter arguments.)

Very wise words,I know well both sides of this
 

The written/printed word shows no emotion, unfortunately people are often too eager to read emotion into it. Until everyone has excellent literary skills and and plenty of time for reading, I suggest just taking everything at face value, and ask for clarification if needed.

Joel
 

The written/printed word shows no emotion, unfortunately people are often too eager to read emotion into it. Until everyone has excellent literary skills and and plenty of time for reading, I suggest just taking everything at face value, and ask for clarification if needed.

Joel

Exactly! Words are point blank. I often get a bit ticked off, but I ride it out, back to friends. One thing that does and should tic me off is one calling a cool find , simply "geofact". If the find looks even a little artistic, but is nothing, more than a one word answer is deserved. Especially when it's not the sought after word. If you can't really explain why it's a geofact, at least break the news with some empathy. Not a robotic, "geofact" ... Next... Lol! That burns my hide.
 

I just stopped posting any of my finds on here, period.
 

That's a shame. I have to admit I've done the same. And that to me was the purest enjoyment I got from this great forum. It is a great forum.
Like a group of friends excited to show what they were blessed to find to one another.
Regardless of how many years I've been on this green earth the inquisitive, adventurous,and awe inspired child within me is right there every time I feel the centuries melt into my fingertips as that connection is made between the person who last handled that artifact and this one.
That to me is priceless.
 

No matter what you all on this forum are a bunch of great guys and gals. I really appreciate all your opinions and knowledge.
 

Exactly! Words are point blank. I often get a bit ticked off, but I ride it out, back to friends. One thing that does and should tic me off is one calling a cool find , simply "geofact". If the find looks even a little artistic, but is nothing, more than a one word answer is deserved. Especially when it's not the sought after word. If you can't really explain why it's a geofact, at least break the news with some empathy. Not a robotic, "geofact" ... Next... Lol! That burns my hide.

well NC here is one for ya then :laughing7:
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/general-discussion/344734-any-idieas-what.html
 

Well I hope nobody has left because we need all comments on finds to see different angles of our finds. I like flakes and tools and cores. Not many like these but I enjoy the study of them. Charl is one of the best I know on Hard Stone....Gator is one of the best on shell and teeth......Larson on bone and all the other great stuff from ND...and the list goes on. My point is I may not be one of the greatest but I do enjoy the knowledge of everyone and I learn something new almost everyday. To all that have stated they are leaving I have to say it makes me sad to think of all the great knowledge that could be lost to our forum. So if we can vote my vote would be stay. You would be missed and GTP I have enjoyed you for yrs with all of your knowledge mostly from the distance so stay........ rock
 

Yes my words to semper were direct but honest and what was given in return was BS. No where in my post to him the other day did it warrant that type of reply. It really is a different forum with some of these new members. Take it easy everyone I tried to help where I could. I know certain members know that.... I will miss this site but not certain people who killed it. Happy hunting all.....

You went back and changed your post stating several things that were not true, misinforming fellow members, and telling me that I was basically an idiot that needed you guidance. I'm sorry, but I don't sugar coat most of the time. You're a liability with your keyboard and post count, undeniably misinforming potential greenhorns. Yes, people actually believe that other people are only credible if their post count is in the top brackets. You struck a very tiny nerve, and I gave it back to ya. Now you're calling me out in this post, so I am gonna help you with that going away party. And when you choose to blame others for killing the site, two fingers are points right back at people like yourself.

Honestly, I am not like this at all, but I get sick and tired of the pity party, blame game, bs.

TNet Mods, thanks for what you do. Delete this, please if it may offend someone. Oh yeah, it always offends someone.

Would have pm'd this, but he started it. LOL
 

You went back and changed your post stating several things that were not true, misinforming fellow members, and telling me that I was basically an idiot that needed you guidance. I'm sorry, but I don't sugar coat most of the time. You're a liability with your keyboard and post count, undeniably misinforming potential greenhorns. Yes, people actually believe that other people are only credible if their post count is in the top brackets. You struck a very tiny nerve, and I gave it back to ya. Now you're calling me out in this post, so I am gonna help you with that going away party. And when you choose to blame others for killing the site, two fingers are points right back at people like yourself.

Honestly, I am not like this at all, but I get sick and tired of the pity party, blame game, bs.

TNet Mods, thanks for what you do. Delete this, please if it may offend someone. Oh yeah, it always offends someone.

Would have pm'd this, but he started it. LOL

In talking to a friend last night, we decided "Lol" is the duct tape of chat forums. You can cuss a person up a brick wall and, as long as "Lol" is at the end of the cursing, you are good to go. All fixed!
 

LOL!

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I don't even know what you are all talking about. I move on to other threads real quick.
 

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