Coin / token Id help needed

[DirtyMike]

Any ideas? It appears to be a King George III halfpenny with something stamped on the other side.

 

[Iron Patch]

Very cool! Counterstamp with what looks like a counterfeit old head Irish obverse. 1770s/80s A lot going on with that coin.

 

[DirtyMike]

What type of advertisement would they have stamped on the coin. Or could it be someone or someplace's initials?

 

[Iron Patch]

What type of advertisement would they have stamped on the coin. Or could it be someone or someplace's initials?

Probably for some type of business and the stamp would relate to it, either initials or something else.

 

[Silver Searcher]

Whats a round about value for a coin like this?

There are some on this link, which might give you a rough idea http://www.abccoinsandtokens.com/Countermarked Tokens and Coins.html

SS.

 

[Silver Searcher]

Found this George111 penny Coutner Stamped with IK on the back don't know if it helps any

SS.

What do you know about the coin posted SilverSearcher? That appear very close with slightly different IK design. A counterstamped counterfeit would be something else.

Sorry I missed your question IS there wasn't much info from the link I used about the initials, proberbly a traders initial, or something similar.

SS.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Found this George111 penny Coutner Stamped with IK on the back don't know if it helps any

SS.

What do you know about the coin posted SilverSearcher? That appear very close with slightly different IK design. A counterstamped counterfeit would be something else.

Sorry I missed your question IS there wasn't much info from the link I used about the initials, proberbly a traders initial, or something similar.

SS.

Could we see the link?

 

[Woodland Detectors]

Heres one I hope it helps.


http://wildwinds.com/coins/brit/george_III/i.html

 

[DirtyMike]

Thanks for the links.

 

[johnnyi]

"Whats a round about value for a coin like this?"

As Don sad, it is really hard to say, but once it is identified, published, and in the best case scenerio, gets some attribution, the value goes up appreciably. What you've found ("I K") is an unlisted counterstamp referred to as a "maverick". Here's a similar type of two letter maverick I dug several years ago which was then unique (like your's) and which "United States Tokens" listed for value $80.00. Since then a few others have been found in the same area of the country, and once they are reported it will be easier to attribute the maker (and again, once attributed, the value goes up considerably on all of them)

Once again, I think you should write to Russell Rulau, the author of "United States Tokens", and report your find. He has the largest data base, and as well, he is working on a cd addition to the book. You can contact him through Krause publications, 700 E. State St. iola WI 54990-0001.

 

[Silver Searcher]

Found this George111 penny Coutner Stamped with IK on the back don't know if it helps any

SS.

What do you know about the coin posted SilverSearcher? That appear very close with slightly different IK design. A counterstamped counterfeit would be something else.

Sorry I missed your question IS there wasn't much info from the link I used about the initials, proberbly a traders initial, or something similar.

SS.

Could we see the link?

6 posts up

SS

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Could we see the link?

6 posts up

SS

OK thanks. You are right. It doesnt say much about it.

 

[CRUSADER]

Just checked J.G. Scott's book on British Countermarks on Copper & Bronze Coins:

IK appears in the 'Unattributed' appendix, might be the same, but have no photo in the book for a match.

Book says:

IK large letters with serifs in rectangular indent - recorded on a George II Halfpenny.

Sounds similar, but clearly on a different coin.

 

[Iron Patch]

"Whats a round about value for a coin like this?"

As Don sad, it is really hard to say, but once it is identified, published, and in the best case scenerio, gets some attribution, the value goes up appreciably. What you've found ("I K") is an unlisted counterstamp referred to as a "maverick". Here's a similar type of two letter maverick I dug several years ago which was then unique (like your's) and which "United States Tokens" listed for value $80.00. Since then a few others have been found in the same area of the country, and once they are reported it will be easier to attribute the maker (and again, once attributed, the value goes up considerably on all of them)

Once again, I think you should write to Russell Rulau, the author of "United States Tokens", and report your find. He has the largest data base, and as well, he is working on a cd addition to the book. You can contact him through Krause publications, 700 E. State St. iola WI 54990-0001.

They can be frustrating, and if they end up being unattributed there isn't much value, I have found a few. I also have about a dozen I have bought the last few years and one is actually quite similiar to the one in this thread. I do know a collector for stamped coins and probably will be in contact with him sometime soon.

 

[Iron Patch]

Just checked J.G. Scott's book on British Countermarks on Copper & Bronze Coins:

IK appears in the 'Unattributed' appendix, might be the same, but have no photo in the book for a match.

Book says:

IK large letters with serifs in rectangular indent - recorded on a George II Halfpenny.

Sounds similar, but clearly on a different coin.

Don't think the coin matters, was just the host. It's about matching the stamp.

 

[CRUSADER]

Just checked J.G. Scott's book on British Countermarks on Copper & Bronze Coins:

IK appears in the 'Unattributed' appendix, might be the same, but have no photo in the book for a match.

Book says:

IK large letters with serifs in rectangular indent - recorded on a George II Halfpenny.

Sounds similar, but clearly on a different coin.

Don't think the coin matters, was just the host. It's about matching the stamp.

I realise that, I just pointed it out for those that might pick holes

PS. Do you think the description sounds the same, I do, as it has Serifs & a somewhat rectangular indent?

 

[Iron Patch]

Just checked J.G. Scott's book on British Countermarks on Copper & Bronze Coins:

IK appears in the 'Unattributed' appendix, might be the same, but have no photo in the book for a match.

Book says:

IK large letters with serifs in rectangular indent - recorded on a George II Halfpenny.

Sounds similar, but clearly on a different coin.

Don't think the coin matters, was just the host. It's about matching the stamp.

I realise that, I just pointed it out for those that might pick holes

PS. Do you think the description sounds the same, I do, as it has Serifs & a somewhat rectangular indent?

Does sound like it and if it were mine and that's the best i could get, I'd probably run with it.

 

[DirtyMike]

Sounds like the best shot I got so far on an id.

 

[johnnyi]

Mike, my wife was cleaning the storeroom yesterday and she discovered some of my old finds I'd packed up because they too worn to identify. On this piece I'd always searched for a name written in small letters within the "grooves", but after seeing your post here a few weeks ago I just realized I was looking at it in the wrong way. Apparently it is the same kind of deal as yours, a counterstamped british coin which may have the large letters "I B" in relief. This particular coin is stamped both front and back, and is so worn that most of the design is gone, almost completely gone on the back. It seems likely then, as some other posters have suggested already, that these particular counterstamps were made in England and made their way over here.

 

[Iron Patch]

Mike, my wife was cleaning the storeroom yesterday and she discovered some of my old finds I'd packed up because they too worn to identify. On this piece I'd always searched for a name written in small letters within the "grooves", but after seeing your post here a few weeks ago I just realized I was looking at it in the wrong way. Apparently it is the same kind of deal as yours, a counterstamped british coin which may have the large letters "I B" in relief. This particular coin is stamped both front and back, and is so worn that most of the design is gone, almost completely gone on the back. It seems likely then, as some other posters have suggested already, that these particular counterstamps were made in England and made their way over here.

Funny... I have one I purchased that is similar, at least the style is to one one posted above. I also have a find that has a B, maybe IB.

 

[DirtyMike]

It ain't over yet. I have an appointment with a coin collector whom loves counterstamps & has seen many of them and owns quite a few he said. So wish me luck. I will let you all know what he thinks.