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johnnyi

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The marsh called me back again today. At this point I can' help myself, I have to know what is there. I could only spend three hours because I had to pick my poor cat up from being neutered, so I hit the little high spot once again where I'd found the swagger stick. This time the shotgun shells weren't bad; maybe half a dozen in all because I'd picked so many out already. What is left is deep signals, and many brass/copper signals break and sputter like iron. Numbers are meaningless on the machine.

Again at real depth (red gravel) I'm finding lots of red pottery and clam shell (a good 18+ inches down!) . It seems to deep for English pottery, and I think it may be an indian settlement before settlers moved in. It will be near impossible to sift, as for every hole I have to dig through a crisscross of roots.

Today I dug a broken tombac button, a cuff button, broken shoe buckle, and various shards of metal and a few square nails which had showed promise as good signals, and the coins.

The 1745 king George 2nd was a fairtly decent signal. I used Don's method to clean this one side (haven't cleaned the versos yet. Soaked therm both for three hours in peroxide and used a q-tip. (sorry Don, I put olive oil on them afterwards for the picture :D)).
The 1736 farthing was a signal I wouldn't have dug anywhere else, just a hint of a tweek, and then iron breaks. It looks as though it was lost near the day it was struck. It's possibly one of my better condition farthings i've ever found, possibly due to the depth and different gravel which might have protected it. (just looked at it again, it seems it was against a little bit of iron which probably helped save it and which mightr be why the signal was so terrible!)

The unworn condition and dates of the coins has me wondering if this little oasis in the marsh was settled long before the War of !812, and that the arms on the British swagger stick might prove to be revolutionary rather than 1812. It's definately showing to be more than just a place where people camped, but instead where they might have lived.
 

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Nice finds! Keep em coming! The pottery sherd you have in your hand is not Indian. It may be tin enamaled.
 
those coins came up nice :icon_thumright:
 
"Nice finds! Keep em coming! The pottery sherd you have in your hand is not Indian. It looks to be tin enamaled."

I'm almost sorry to hear that. It means I'm going to need a bigger coil then a 15' which is what I'm using now! :D
 
Hey John, surprised to see those coppers clean up so well for "marsh" finds! Kudos! Farthings are not a common find in my immediate area, so nice to see one in your part of the state. Now, who is to say the Indians did not use early English Pottery, I am sure they did, afterall, the Indians were here well after contact period. So, I would not dismiss totally that possibility yet, but either way, you are in an old layer.........

Good luck on future explorations there.

Off now for the NJ/MM coin evaluation get together up north from here.............

Don
 
Don in SJ said:
Hey John, surprised to see those coppers clean up so well for "marsh" finds! Kudos! Farthings are not a common find in my immediate area, so nice to see one in your part of the state. Now, who is to say the Indians did not use early English Pottery, I am sure they did, afterall, the Indians were here well after contact period. So, I would not dismiss totally that possibility yet, but either way, you are in an old layer.........

Good luck on future explorations there.

Off now for the NJ/MM coin evaluation get together up north from here.............

Don

Thanks Don. Yeah, my hopes are rejuvinated after seeing how the backs came out (still have to resoak and clean the fronts which seem a little worse.) Obviously there was some iron near the farthing which might have helped it the way it helped the 1812 button, but I'm beginning to think that the very deep finds might be protected by the bog iron rich gravel also.

Good luck at the meeting tonight. The revealing of the Machin's/New jersey verdict will definately necessitate at least a drum roll, and possibly mood music, because I have a sneaky feeling it will be spectacular news!!! :hello2: :headbang:
 
About time you cleaned up and corrected your condition issues! ;D
 
Iron Patch said:
About time you cleaned up and corrected your condition issues! ;D

Ha! yeah, it only too me thirty-eight years to get it right. better late than never. ;D
 
I'm going to get some Peroxide :icon_thumleft:
 
shaun7 said:
I'm going to get some Peroxide :icon_thumleft:

Man, you're not kidding Shaun! I actually argued with Don months ago about peroxide, then finally I tried it. All those decent coins I'd try to raise dates on with an eraser, or soak in olive oil for six months! It's enough to make a grown man weep! One caution though, it will work if there's a heavy crust, but it won't do much if there's actual corrosion. Luckily these were preserved in crust.
 
johnnyi said:
shaun7 said:
I'm going to get some Peroxide :icon_thumleft:

Man, you're not kidding Shaun! I actually argued with Don months ago about peroxide, then finally I tried it. All those decent coins I'd try to raise dates on with an eraser, or soak in olive oil for six months! It's enough to make a grown man weep! One caution though, it will work if there's a heavy crust, but it won't do much if there's actual corrosion. Luckily these were preserved in crust.


If you hit them over and over and over, it can actually remove some of the hardest corrosion.
 
johnnyi said:
shaun7 said:
I'm going to get some Peroxide :icon_thumleft:

Man, you're not kidding Shaun! I actually argued with Don months ago about peroxide, then finally I tried it. All those decent coins I'd try to raise dates on with an eraser, or soak in olive oil for six months! It's enough to make a grown man weep! One caution though, it will work if there's a heavy crust, but it won't do much if there's actual corrosion. Luckily these were preserved in crust.
You should have known better then to argue with Don.. He knows his Colonial coins an how to clean them...
 
creeper71 said:
johnnyi said:
shaun7 said:
I'm going to get some Peroxide :icon_thumleft:

Man, you're not kidding Shaun! I actually argued with Don months ago about peroxide, then finally I tried it. All those decent coins I'd try to raise dates on with an eraser, or soak in olive oil for six months! It's enough to make a grown man weep! One caution though, it will work if there's a heavy crust, but it won't do much if there's actual corrosion. Luckily these were preserved in crust.
You should have known better then to argue with Don.. He knows his Colonial coins an how to clean them...


It's a funny thing.... I tried peroxide several years before it became popular, and eventhough it worked well on the coin I cleaned, it took me years to get back to it. One of those things you look back on and shake your head.
 
Hey johnny, very nice coins ... i love that farthing, my only one i dug 2 months ago was a charles II 1670's and it was barely identifiable... got a 1734 halfpenny 2 weeks ago also (only my 3rd) Congrats, big up
 
nice finds johnny and the peroxide tip is just what i.ve been looking for..cheers
 
Very nice farthing and halfpenny, John. The marsh was and still is the place to be in NJ.

Kyle
 
Sweet finds, cleaned up nicely. :thumbsup:
 
That's some great finds. :icon_thumleft:
 
Johnny, excellent finds! Is the RING a Colonial finger ring or some type camp equipment ring? Breezie
 

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