✅ SOLVED Cool old sewing machine age?

[Joshr29]

I posted this in today's finds but I was curious if any of y'all might know about how old this is? It looks pretty ancient. I can't find any writing due to the rust. Just that decorative close up shot that I really can't make anything out of.

 

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[mamabear]

that is a nice find. Have no idea on date though.

 

[G.A.P.metal]

I think i see an S and an M.... Singer ??

 

[Lafitte Deux]

Singer badges were usually round or tear-drop shaped. It might be a Franklin or White Rotary.
No idea on age.

 

[TomPA]

No idea on the maker, but I'd guess it's from the mid-1890's.

 

[surf]

Hey Josh,

That is an interesting badge, unlike any that I've seen from Singer. Those ornate entangled letter designs can be tough to untangle.

I think I see an I, M & S, with a couple extra S's for good measure. Isaac Merritt Singer was a heck of an interesting character.

If you cannot see any serial numbers, you might contact Singer and see what they can tell you. They appear to have archivists: Singer 160th Anniversary | We've come SEW far. Share your own SINGER story and help us celebrate 160 years of a legendary sewing brand.

 

[HutSiteDigger]

I have seen a couple of Singer sewing machines and all of them had Singer or there badge like you posted above on it, but did they make sowing machines that did not have Singer or there company logo on it but a logo like is on this sewing machine?. I do not think Royal St John sewing machines had a badge like this too, interesting to find out who made this!

 

[capt-zero]

I really can't help with the ID any, though it's not like any Singer I've ever seen. However the bobbin is the old long type, which was discontinued by most makers around the turn of the twentieth century, so it's over a hundred years old. The body shape reminds me of an old White, but many makers paid for the right to copy another's patent, such as J.C. Penny, Kreske, Sears, ect. and would have the vendors logo on them.

 

[Joshr29]

Hey Josh,

That is an interesting badge, unlike any that I've seen from Singer. Those ornate entangled letter designs can be tough to untangle.

I think I see an I, M & S, with a couple extra S's for good measure. Isaac Merritt Singer was a heck of an interesting character.

If you cannot see any serial numbers, you might contact Singer and see what they can tell you. They appear to have archivists: Singer 160th Anniversary | We've come SEW far. Share your own SINGER story and help us celebrate 160 years of a legendary sewing brand.

I just shot singer an email with those pics. Thanks a lot for that link and all your help. I love it when I find a relic that intrigues people so much. I would have never thought much of it until all the good people on here started posting. Maybe it's a one of a kind...

 

[HutSiteDigger]

If you can't find anything from Singer there Josh try International Sewing Machine Collector's Society - Antique, Vintage, and Rare That is International Sewing Machine Collector Society.

 

[Joshr29]

Ok thanks a bunch for that info. Will try them right away. Hopefully I can let y'all know something soon.

 

[Joshr29]

If you can't find anything from Singer there Josh try International Sewing Machine Collector's Society - Antique, Vintage, and Rare That is International Sewing Machine Collector Society.

Dang. They said they are getting too many emails so you have to sign up for something to get an answer.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Treadle Sewing Machine by Providence Tool Company - 1879 model it looks like.







1879 Household Head

 

[DocBeav]

SOLVED! Good job!

 

[Joshr29]

Charlie P, you are the man. Great job on that one. Do you just know sewing machines really well or did you have to research a lot? Either way, that was an awesome ID. Thank you so much and thanks so much to everyone else that was helping. I'm on my iPhone so I can't mark it solved. I think you should have that honor Charlie

 

[Joshr29]

P.S.

Nobody needs to bother on a value because I am a relic hoarding addict. I'm gonna mount that on a nice piece of wood and its goin inside. Sorry Honey. HH everyone!

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

No, I don't know sewing machines really well. THE ADMIRAL (my wife) uses an old Franklin treadle that could sew two belts to a board and we have an equally old Standard as an end table in the livingroom. Just googled "Treadel Sewing Machines" and then selected Images and looked for visual clues.

My secret is my Dad was born in 1912 and my Pop-in-Law in 1909 and I have the advantage of seeing most "whatzits" posted here in garages and cellars of my home or those of deceased relatives at one time or another; so I know where to begin a search criteria. I'm also interested in everything. ;-)

THE ADMIRAL knits with the wool off the sheep we raise (in a barn with no electricity, next to the chickens). I still USE a lot of the Whatzits that pop up.

Giving away my research secrets.

 

[surf]

Well done, Charlie P.!

Leaves me wondering how come there's all those S's in the Providence Tool Co. badge...

PS: Found a couple of their non sewing machine items, that may be familiar to some of the members:

Model 1861 musket. Model 1861 Providence Tool Co. Contract Musket

Leg Irons RestraintsBlog: Providence Tool Co. Leg Irons and Handcuffs Civil War