Coppers and silver "oldest copper nice 1794"

[TnT2000]

Coppers and silver "oldest copper nice 1794"

Hi all TnT here.. Hope all is well with everyone on T-net.
Finally had some time to sneak out for a few hours.

These are finds from last weeks hunt and today.
Last week I hit an old hot spot we have cleaned pretty good but still sneak out a few nice finds.
First target was net to a small tree, flipped it out and 1848 Large cent with almost perfect detail but some corrosion.
Next good Target was a 1889 seated dime in real nice shape.
Pulled a few buttons also.
I move to another site in the area that is almost silent when you swing (that's how much we have hit it)
Got a pretty Iffy tone (we dig everything). Pulled out what thought was a nickle, but at closer inspection it is a
1806 King George something? any info would be great.

Today I went to a spot we called the button spot. until today we pulled 70-80 buttons and a total of 4 coins. at 2-4" depth.
By the way I have been a whites guy for years and just started using the Minlab Explorer Se. to see if there is anything deeper at this site,
and judging from today as long as I can get use to it it will do well. Got a few buttons 2 at 6-7" and then pulled this sweet 1794
large cent at 6" she sure was pretty..

Well thanks for looking TnT

 

[markgPA]

Re: Coppers and silver "oldest copper nice 1794"

Hey T
I hope you checked your shoes before going in the house b/c I think you stepped in something stinky! Great bunch of coins as usual.

mark

 

[dgaughan]

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outstanding finds congrats

 

[pjroo33]

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This coin might end up being something VERY special. Congrats on the great finds!

 

[The Buzzard King]

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WOW!
That's some AMAZING stuff there!
Definately Banner material!
Congrats on those INCREDIBLE finds!

 

[zaxfire69]

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Wow. If the lord would only give me one spot like that to hunt. OUTSTANDING FINDS!! As far as your 1794 Large Cent goes there are 2 variations. Normal Head and High-Relief Head. I can't really tell by looking at the picture ..No reading glasses on tonight. In AG-3 which is the lowest grade in 09 redbook..$280.00 High relief head is even higher. I would happy dance for sure.

Whoops my bad I was looking at HALF CENTS>..SEE I AM BLIND>>>NO READING GLASSES>>

 

[Nana40]

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TnT! Just crazy! I may find myself speechless on this one! Naaaa....

AWESOME superdooper find!!!!!!!!!!

Many congrats to ya! Nana

OH..and just for kicks, I looked up what was happening in 1794....here's a link...

http://www.brainyhistory.com/years/1794.html

 

[West Jersey Detecting]

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Nice finds, ah, there is something amiss with the Reverse side of the 1794 copper. I think I am seeing a double strike or something, can you look closely and or post another photo maybe a tad closer? The reverse has more on it than it should, at first I suspected a cast counterfeit, which have not ruled out yet, but maybe it is a double strike of some type on the reverse.

I see lines that should not be there, also CENT look like it is struck below CENT and there are other disparities, also part of a second fraction bar.

You might have a good coin if it is a legit one and double struck or a cast counterfeit or something to that effect.

Could you post the weight also?

Don

I was thinking that something did not look right as well. I am curious as to the ID.

Whatever it is, it is a fantastic find!

Congratulations!

 

[TnT2000]

Re: Coppers and silver "oldest copper nice 1794"

TnT! Just crazy! I may find myself speechless on this one! Naaaa....

AWESOME superdooper find!!!!!!!!!!

Many congrats to ya! Nana

OH..and just for kicks, I looked up what was happening in 1794....here's a link...

http://www.brainyhistory.com/years/1794.html

Nana your too funny....That link was pretty cool Thanks..TnT

 

[zaxfire69]

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It is hard to tell from your picture of the back of the coin. Does your coin have a Reeded Edge OR Stars in between the Reeded Edge?

Judging from the hook on the last lock of hair that looks like a 1793 head to me. BUT I aint to sure. What looks funny to me is the edge of the reverse side of the coin. Looks real thick to be a reeded edge. Almost looks like stars in between the edge. I will let the pro's decide.

 

[mxtswinger]

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Absolutely amazing!! Especially condition wise. You da MAN! Sorry but I have too much drool on my keyboard to continue.

Oops, I forgot- BANNER!!!

 

[Iron Patch]

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Did you yell Bingo when you seen the 1794 date?

 

[TreasurdiggrNY]

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Great hunt, fantastic finds. That 1794 is a beauty, can't wait to see the final word on the ID. Good Luck!
Glenn

 

[funkman]

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That 1794 is a fantastic looking coin! Congrats on all the great finds!

Funkman

 

[Wallhangers]

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Banner!!! How often do you see one that old in that good of condition. It would clean up nice if you chose to do so or had someone else do it. When you get use to that SE, there will be no turning back. Great digs!

 

[Colonial Copper Zeus]

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What a day for you. If you ask me it's one for the record books. Does the Liberty cap have the words on the outside edge of the coin? I'll bet it does. Congratulations.
Chris

 

[Admiral de Salee]

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My totally-based-on-stuff-I'm-not-well-versed-in opinion is that the wonderful 1794 Flowing Hair Cent is better than G-3 condition.
If it isn't worth at least $400, I'll eat my bumpersticker (atch'd)

CONGRATULATIONS!!

 

[Don in SJ]

Re: Coppers and silver "oldest copper nice 1794"

OK, have spent a few hours on this one, I think I could not see the forest from the trees on IDing the variety, but since there are almost 70 varieties, 1794 is a tough year.

The coin is not a 1793 head type, it is not the Starred Reverse, it appears to be the second most common variety, a Sheldon 22. I have not had this confirmed yet but after going through the list of coins a few times, I for now will say 98% sure it is the S-22.

But, the issues of the Reverse are still there, and it would be nice for you to measure the diameter in mm and also photograph a portion of the edge lettering, but that area must be free of crud.

Again, it still could be a cast counterfeit. Knowing the weight (in grams) would help eliminate that possibility, but not always.

If it is some type of planchet error combined with a funky double strike, than a Very Common coin becomes uncommon, but also if it is a counterfeit, than it is more of a conversation piece than anything else.

Hopefully, I or someone else will get a final analysis.

Don

 

[The Master Chief]

Re: Coppers and silver "oldest copper nice 1794"

Very nice pics and looks as though your hunt proved sucessful

 

[allen]

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way to go on all of those great finds...

 

[Mirage]

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Wow, Awesome finds. That 1794 is a jawdropper.

That is a crazy button to coin ratio. Those buttons look like nice finds also.

Switching to the SE - it will take a while that's for sure. It took me about 6 months because I went from the DFX to the Quattro. If I had gone to the Explorer it might have been a quicker transition.

Bob