Ecominer
Banned
- Mar 20, 2003
- 124
- 61
- Detector(s) used
- Fisher Gemini III; Garrett Master Hunter;2009 Minelab Explorer SE Pro; Quantro Discovery Land Tone Magetometer 1A;
- Primary Interest:
- All Treasure Hunting
Re: DANGERS IN CAVES
Most of the time when I find a cave it is not next to the road or where I park my car. If I find one within an hour of the vehicle I feel like it is a lucky day! People who have made some good suggestions have obviously not backpacked into an area with proper survival gear in their backpack or they wouldn't make suggestions of carrying something extra that weighs 5, 10, 15, or 20 pounds. I think a long time about any extra equipment I have to carry and I don't do it lightly (PLAY ON WORDS).
If you've ever been in a smoke filled room, get down on the floor and you will find there is about a foot of breathing air space. Obviously smoke bombs would probably have minimal effect unless it was a heavier than air type of smoke, sulphur for example. The only problem with sulphur is that it is yellow and would cover any markings on the wall.
Gasoline or any liquid is heavy and then you have to carry a container, and equipment to use it from a distance if you don't want to get struck by a snake, but then you have the methane problem that might blow you away in the process.
You could throw in a bottle of bleach and Clorox that will create a poisonous gas, but then again how long are you going to wait for the air to clear.
There were many good answers if your cave was near town, the parking lot, or home, but you also need to figure out the easiest method to get in, look around, and get out safely.
For $40 bucks you can buy a set of Kevlar snake chaps, yes, the kind that go all the way up to your butt. They weigh about two pounds, are antipollution, don't kill anything, and a snake can't bite through them. If you use a walking stick, like I do, I bounce it around hitting rocks when I can, and give snakes time to get away. If you are in confined quarters you can walk by a snake, and even if he bites, you won't get hurt. I have never heard of a snake biting anyone lower than the ankle, and the chaps can be lowered on your legs to boot sole height.
If you use this method you can walk in, search, and come out in whatever time frame you want. You don't have to wait hours, days, or months for the air to clear. If you go in during the winter, snakes move slower, and are not near as aggressive as in summer.
Snakes will hang out near the entrance of a cave during the summer and generally will not penetrate deeply (not saying that they won't). Be very careful when you first enter a cave because they are just staying cool until it cools off outside, and then they go hunting. That's why it is dangerous to be out hiking at night, because they are out looking for a meal.
Just out of curiosity when was the last time anyone saw a horse hair rope or knows anyone that knows how to make one for cheap (or a grass rope)?
If you're car camping you can sprinkle lime around your camp site and you will find that snakes will not cross it, but it needs to be wider than your finger to do it. Frankly, I've never found enough ashes to carry around (it contains lime), but lime is cheap.
Many of those other methods works above, but I don't like to work hard by carrying heavy loads, or carry expensive electronic equipment that is bulky in my backpack unless it is consumable and I don't have to carry it back out.
As the old saying goes " keep it simple and safe".
Ecominer
Most of the time when I find a cave it is not next to the road or where I park my car. If I find one within an hour of the vehicle I feel like it is a lucky day! People who have made some good suggestions have obviously not backpacked into an area with proper survival gear in their backpack or they wouldn't make suggestions of carrying something extra that weighs 5, 10, 15, or 20 pounds. I think a long time about any extra equipment I have to carry and I don't do it lightly (PLAY ON WORDS).
If you've ever been in a smoke filled room, get down on the floor and you will find there is about a foot of breathing air space. Obviously smoke bombs would probably have minimal effect unless it was a heavier than air type of smoke, sulphur for example. The only problem with sulphur is that it is yellow and would cover any markings on the wall.
Gasoline or any liquid is heavy and then you have to carry a container, and equipment to use it from a distance if you don't want to get struck by a snake, but then you have the methane problem that might blow you away in the process.
You could throw in a bottle of bleach and Clorox that will create a poisonous gas, but then again how long are you going to wait for the air to clear.
There were many good answers if your cave was near town, the parking lot, or home, but you also need to figure out the easiest method to get in, look around, and get out safely.
For $40 bucks you can buy a set of Kevlar snake chaps, yes, the kind that go all the way up to your butt. They weigh about two pounds, are antipollution, don't kill anything, and a snake can't bite through them. If you use a walking stick, like I do, I bounce it around hitting rocks when I can, and give snakes time to get away. If you are in confined quarters you can walk by a snake, and even if he bites, you won't get hurt. I have never heard of a snake biting anyone lower than the ankle, and the chaps can be lowered on your legs to boot sole height.
If you use this method you can walk in, search, and come out in whatever time frame you want. You don't have to wait hours, days, or months for the air to clear. If you go in during the winter, snakes move slower, and are not near as aggressive as in summer.
Snakes will hang out near the entrance of a cave during the summer and generally will not penetrate deeply (not saying that they won't). Be very careful when you first enter a cave because they are just staying cool until it cools off outside, and then they go hunting. That's why it is dangerous to be out hiking at night, because they are out looking for a meal.
Just out of curiosity when was the last time anyone saw a horse hair rope or knows anyone that knows how to make one for cheap (or a grass rope)?
If you're car camping you can sprinkle lime around your camp site and you will find that snakes will not cross it, but it needs to be wider than your finger to do it. Frankly, I've never found enough ashes to carry around (it contains lime), but lime is cheap.
Many of those other methods works above, but I don't like to work hard by carrying heavy loads, or carry expensive electronic equipment that is bulky in my backpack unless it is consumable and I don't have to carry it back out.
As the old saying goes " keep it simple and safe".
Ecominer
