Detecting with Dogs, your opinion wanted.

[KYgotGOLD]

I would bet you do have the ability..

so downer. A guy bought on my road along time ago and used 2 sticks to find his water and he was rite that’s the water he uses, so he came on our property and did the same thang and told us the best place to drill for ours. And years later we checked a map of ground water and he was spot on. Is that dowsing? What we locally call a water witch? I’m just trying to figure out what dowsing is respectfully. I’ve heard of dowsing rods as well but this man picks up sticks and they point towards then cross when he’s over ground water. I thought it was a native thang because that’s his blood line? Is that dowsing? I’ve only heard of this for water. And a chance for gold your dogs going to get it. I feel like gold that’s been in the ground has a good amount of oxides since the polish to it’s wearing down maybe better chance on ore then a coin because it’s not polished. But once again I have no clue just an idea for you.

 

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[dowser]

so downer. A guy bought on my road along time ago and used 2 sticks to find his water and he was rite that’s the water he uses, so he came on our property and did the same thang and told us the best place to drill for ours. And years later we checked a map of ground water and he was spot on. Is that dowsing? What we locally call a water witch? I’m just trying to figure out what dowsing is respectfully. I’ve heard of dowsing rods as well but this man picks up sticks and they point towards then cross when he’s over ground water. I thought it was a native thang because that’s his blood line? Is that dowsing? I’ve only heard of this for water. And a chance for gold your dogs going to get it. I feel like gold that’s been in the ground has a good amount of oxides since the polish to it’s wearing down maybe better chance on ore then a coin because it’s not polished. But once again I have no clue just an idea for you.

Dowsing for water same thing as Gold..
I have and use Sulfur, as one of my signals.
I try to check and figure from distances if it has other minerals, or Gold alone.
I don't have a Sulfur frequency number yet..
The old Iron bridge near me, dowses Gold. I followed a Gold signal, that led me to Iron . Its possible Sulfur, along with other minerals, is in trace amounts of Gold everywhere. The dog could smell the Sulfur in Gold scent, if it contains enough..
Same as a dog chasing a frequency, it might not be enough for it to smell or sense, but it's there..

 

[dowser]

I lived in Arizona for a year chasing Gold frequencies associated with legends.
Supposed Gold bars hidden in Rogers lake below Flagstaff.
From miles away I was signaling Dowsing a Gold signal, that led me to the Lake named in the legend..
The story was, the bars were stolen from a mine, and we're still possibly contacting Mercury, heading to the refinery..
I obtained Mercury as a Signal and returned. Yes the is Mercury with a Gold signal in a target, in the dry lake.
It was confirmed with a second Dowser.
I showed up at nite to try to get above the target, but couldn't get close enough.. It was a cow pasture now, with a Dog watching and barking.
Further research totally debunks the whole legend? I have no idea how a target can dowse a Gold and Mercury combo, if it's not supposed to exist!

 

[achanceforgold]

unfortunately, I won't be able try those test this weekend.
But the following weekend should be open.

So I'll try to get things set up for then
Chance will be in a metal detector competition Saturday.
Then we are going to try and visit some old gold mine sites

 

[KYgotGOLD]

unfortunately, I won't be able try those test this weekend.
But the fully weekend should be open.

So ill try to get things set up for then
Chance will be in a metal detector competition Saturday.
Then we are going to try and visit some old gold mine sites

Keep us posted on how he does.

 

[achanceforgold]

I lived in Arizona for a year chasing Gold frequencies associated with legends.
Supposed Gold bars hidden in Rogers lake below Flagstaff.
From miles away I was signaling Dowsing a Gold signal, that led me to the Lake named in the legend..
The story was, the bars were stolen from a mine, and we're still possibly contacting Mercury, heading to the refinery..
I obtained Mercury as a Signal and returned. Yes the is Mercury with a Gold signal in a target, in the dry lake.
It was confirmed with a second Dowser.
I showed up at nite to try to get above the target, but couldn't get close enough.. It was a cow pasture now, with a Dog watching and barking.
Further research totally debunks the whole legend? I have no idea how a target can dowse a Gold and Mercury combo, if it's not supposed to exist!

Here is some information that could be along your frequency lines.
Both gold and silver are diamagnetic, meaning they are slightly repelled by magnets.

Chance can easily detect this ceramic plate that has 24k gold on it fired in a kiln.

Bury that at 6 inches. No problem. He triggers right on top of it.

This plate, on the other hand is 24k gold plated over some other metal.
Not sure what the metal is but it is magnetic. A magnet will stick to the plate.
It's an antique and is marked as 24k gold plated by a reputable company.

Chance cannot scent detect this plate.
It can be in open air, right in front of him. He will not trigger.
Acts like it is just another meaningless object.


He triggers on any gold from 10k to 24k.
Jewelry, Coins, nuggets, bars. gold in quartz, gold plated quarters.
examples.

Any gold or silver he has been able to do.
Except that gold-plated plate that is magnetic.

So, something else is going on besides just a sulfide scent.
The gold-plated plate should have the same scent as everything else.
But it is totally invisible to him as gold.

This may fall in line with your frequency concept since it is magnetic. I'm not sure.
But something for you to consider.

Why can all other gold and silver be detected except the one thing, that has a very large surface area and should be emitting tons gold-sulfide odor, not be detected? Except there is also a magnetic component involved with this item. I'm almost positive the company that manufactured the plate is legit and it is really 24k gold plated. The only difference is the material it is plated to is magnetic.

 

[dowser]

Here is some information that could be along your frequency lines.
Both gold and silver are diamagnetic, meaning they are slightly repelled by magnets.

Chance can easily detect this ceramic plate that has 24k gold on it fired in a kiln.
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Bury that at 6 inches. No problem. He triggers right on top of it.

This plate, on the other hand is 24k gold plated over some other metal.
Not sure what the metal is but it is magnetic. A magnet will stick to the plate.
It's an antique and is marked as 24k gold plated by a reputable company.
View attachment 2205447
Chance cannot scent detect this plate.
It can be in open air, right in front of him. He will not trigger.
Acts like it is just another meaningless object.


He triggers on any gold from 10k to 24k.
Jewelry, Coins, nuggets, bars. gold in quartz, gold plated quarters.
examples.
View attachment 2205449

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Any gold or silver he has been able to do.
Except that gold-plated plate that is magnetic.

So, something else is going on besides just a sulfide scent.
The gold-plated plate should have the same scent as everything else.
But it is totally invisible to him as gold.

This may fall in line with your frequency concept since it is magnetic. I'm not sure.
But something for you to consider.

Why can all other gold and silver be detected except the one thing, that has a very large surface area and should be emitting tons gold-sulfide odor, not be detected? Except there is also a magnetic component involved with this item. I'm almost positive the company that manufactured the plate is legit and it is really 24k gold plated. The only difference is the material it is plated to is magnetic.

A Dowsing signal is created off the perimeter of the target. Quantity isn't necessarily creating the lines..
I can understand a narrow connection line as the dog approaches a narrow target, but a wide target up close is splitting the signal strength..
Dowse Iron towards a vehicle.. At a distance it's only one line, but closer to the vehicle the line is v shaped.. Only the facing perimeter of the targets resonate the connection line.. A plate is 2 lines as it approaches, the width.
Maybe that is causing the lack of connection line on the plates. Not a lot of Gold, only perimeter, till directly over top..
Cool that your doing tests.. I wasn't sure about a dog sensing and following connection lines. Sensing over top would be easier, if it was possible..

 

[dowser]

I went out Morel Mushroom hunting, and took my Dowsing stuff, still looking for Meteorites on top.. Dowsing power was to weak to use for the hr. I was out.. Then on later, there isn't any prediction.
Power is never constant, and it's weaker and blocked more than stronger, that I have Dowsed..
It's off and on, during a dowse.. I've Dowsed some strong signals, but it's rare.
The ongoing signal strength is a weak 1 gram Gold per foot signal.. That's a normal signal..
Dogs, might connect further for lesser, than humans..

 

[dowser]

I use a frequency directed towards the target for best reception..
If the Gold signal attached to the Dog is directed forward only, the line is enhanced..

 

[dowser]

Are you saying I should have some sort of frequency generator running when the dog is metal detecting?

Yes, a little generator in your pocket...
Running resonating Frequencies are dangerous for us humans, our cell phones are bad enough.
I could e-mail you an active running frequency to use, but I think it's illegal, without a law..

 

[bc5391]

Labrador Retriever.

The ATF, use them exclusively for non-aggressive scent detection.
To detect crime scenes and look for explosives or fire accelerants.
Easily trainable, friendly and not aggressive.

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I see the problem, you need a Golden retriever

 

[DizzyDigger]

Chance cannot scent detect this plate.
It can be in open air, right in front of him. He will not trigger.
Acts like it is just another meaningless object.

Are you burying the objects he's locating on? Could it be that he's hitting on the freshly disturbed soil, and not on the gold or silver?

 

[mntnflyr4fun]

yes, Chance does great at preplaced Gold and Silver.
Even in compacted dirt.

Be we haven't found anything that was lost yet.

He is good at it.
But these are preplaced objects.
I am hoping he finds something just naturally.

Picking up on your scent from handling the coins I would guess

 

[BigWaveDave]

I’m jealous of you guys…. My dog is an idiot.
Maybe one of these days he’ll find a buried sock.

 

[KYgotGOLD]

I’m jealous of you guys…. My dog is an idiot.
Maybe one of these days he’ll find a buried sock.

My last dog would just chase the atv and kill mice out the barn and mess up fishing by jumping in the pond. But sure was good

 

[camichael]

I've wondered if these mine sniffing rats might be trained to sniff out treasure.

Rats have a 2-4 year lifetime... You'd be trainning one every couple of years

 

[achanceforgold]

Are you burying the objects he's locating on? Could it be that he's hitting on the freshly disturbed soil, and not on the gold or silver?

yes, we were worried about that also. whether he was just detecting the disturbed soil.

So, we dug a hole 3-foot, drilled a 3-foot small hole sideways at 2 feet deep, then shoved a gold coin into the undisturbed soil.
He's definitely smelling the sulfides coming up through the ground. Which is to be expected. Some humans can smell silver sulfide, tarnished silver. I can't.


here is a video of that test.

 

[achanceforgold]

Picking up on your scent from handling the coins I would guess

we thought about thought and used gloves on some of the testing.
It didn't matter if we touched it or kept it isolated.
he was detecting the gold and silver sulfides over other sulfides.

But here is a test where I touch everything, two distraction coins, the pvc pipes and the dirt.
He only detects the gold and silver coins.

 

[achanceforgold]

I’m jealous of you guys…. My dog is an idiot.
Maybe one of these days he’ll find a buried sock.

your dog could do it.
You might be surprised.
Research shows all dog breeds can scent detect.

Besides, you'll have a great time with your dog.

 

[achanceforgold]

Rats have a 2-4 year lifetime... You'd be trainning one every couple of years

agreed,

The US Navy did some scent detection experiments with lemon sharks back in the 60's.
I'm debating to train sharks to look for shipwrecks.
Their lifespan is 25-30 years.