Did the FBI find $600M in Civil War Gold in Pa. Forest ?

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Ok, so you are looking for the original warrant the FBI obtained to search the property in hopes that it can answer some questions. Fair enough. What if you come across information that indicates essentially, "no gold was found". Will you be satisfied with that answer?

Is it possible that the FBI's search was two fold? Meaning, unbeknownst to you, the FBI was also working some other case, for example, some missing person cold case or the like? Have you and your team considered that possibility and that their "secrecy" has nothing to do with Gold?

We worked with the FBI for 2 months sending them info on the true story about the lost gold, they could not get a warrant to dig if it was Confederate gold or bank robbery or train gold . They could only dig for Union Gold. We sent them everything we had and we made many trips to the site scanning the gold. To think they were there for anything else is so wrong. We had to prove Connors was real and we had everything to prove his part in this from age 14yrs old up to the date 1884 when he died. We had to prove were the gold came from . We have a letter from Abe Lincoln that was sent 2days after Connors was found . The letter talks about the gold shipment. The FBI was amazed to see all the info we had and they checked it all out.
 

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We worked with the FBI for 2 months sending them info on the true story about the lost gold, they could not get a warrant to dig if it was Confederate gold or bank robbery or train gold . They could only dig for Union Gold. We sent them everything we had and we made many trips to the site scanning the gold. To think they were there for anything else is so wrong. We had to prove Connors was real and we had everything to prove his part in this from age 14yrs old up to the date 1884 when he died. We had to prove were the gold came from . We have a letter from Abe Lincoln that was sent 2days after Connors was found . The letter talks about the gold shipment. The FBI was amazed to see all the info we had and they checked it all out.

You missed the part where i said "unbeknownst to you" in other words, you wouldn't have known that their investigation was two fold or that when they were digging, they came across something else that had nothing to do with treasure. You wouldn't know, because you yourself have said they won't talk to you (other then the precursory, we found nothing talk) and the file is sealed.
 

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The problem is, you have a doggedly unmovable belief that the gold was found and no other possibilities now enter your purview. You dismiss evidence that may contradict your narrative and interpret other evidence as insidious or coverups affirming your belief in the gold being found. In short, you've lost all objectivity to adequately ascertain the truth. You're like the investigator who latches on to one suspect because he's convinced he's guilty and then can't see the other possible suspects who actually committed the crime.

Have you and your team considered completely stepping aside and letting a new, previously unknown to you, private investigator pursue the case? One who can approach it without preconceived narratives and an open mind to other possibilities that your bias isn't letting you see?
 

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A fish rots from the head down. The tail of the fish cannot even comprehend rot, yet it can still rot.

- And the apples at the bottom of that barrel don't know that the apples at the top rotted.

So you agree that the body of the fish is still fine and that the apples at the bottom of the barrel are still good apples. I'm glad that we sorted that out. My disagreement was with folks who saw a barrel of good apples with one or two bad ones and called all of the apples bad... especially when the apples are intelligent, honest, hard-working, and acting to protect our interests, sometimes with great sacrifice.

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To all in this Thread. ONE Reminder,so I Don't need to Say I Told you So.

I Hope No one is Suggesting You are in FinderKeeper's Head & Know more then he Does about this.
Anyone Suggesting he is Not Telling you what he Can, risks a ban .

since he was on site and posts here, his word is testament to the facts

this is not main stream media's opinion of what went on.
this is a TreasureNet Member/Eye Witness telling you what went on.

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Court sucks!

It's expensive no doubt, which is part of why I beleive that FinderKeeper is being honest with us and I wish him the best of outcomes. All he needs to do is show in court that the FBI is being deceptive. Right now, all signs point to Darn straight the FBI is being deceptive!
 

If they only kept there word and let FK watch the dig what was the big deal . If there was nothing there we probably wouldn't have remembered this story . There is only one good reason they booted him . FK did everything right and there is just no good reason for treating him like that..
 

A lot of people died for that gold to get to Dents Run , this gold came from the Union Civil War Wagon Train and many other places in Pa. We did not want the gold for us to get rich but we did want a finders fee so we could dig up more sites. The gold should go to help vets that fought for our country, it does no good setting in the ground.
 

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If they only kept there word and let FK watch the dig what was the big deal . If there was nothing there we probably wouldn't have remembered this story . There is only one good reason they booted him . FK did everything right and there is just no good reason for treating him like that..

Disagree, As a former LE officer of 11 years, i can assure you it is standard operating procedure of LE to close off a crime scene while it is being processed. The FBI viewed this as a crime scene. You can choose to believe it's nefarious, but it isn't. Often, some departments are so strict, they won't even let in other non essential officers on the scene.

Heres a good read in pertinent part about crime scene processing:

"Many times the arrival of additional personnel can cause problems in protecting the scene. Only those people responsible for the immediate investigation of the crime, the securing of the crime scene, and the processing of the crime scene should be present. Non-essential police officers, district attorney investigators, federal agents, politicians, etc. should never be allowed into a secured crime scene unless they can add something (other than contamination) to the crime scene investigation."
 

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FBI official statement, In pertinent part:

March 19, 2018

FBI Statement on Elk County Pennsylvania Excavation

The FBI was conducting a court-authorized excavation last week at Dents Run, Elk County, Pennsylvania.

Nothing was found, and the excavation ended on Wednesday, March 14.

As this is related to an ongoing investigation, any additional comment would be inappropriate at this time.


This is another point of contention that some see as nefarious, the fact the file is ongoing and sealed. Again, this is standard operating procedure on a case that has not been solved. This case may remain open for decades to come.
 

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In pertinent part:

March 19, 2018

FBI Statement on Elk County Pennsylvania Excavation

The FBI was conducting a court-authorized excavation last week at Dents Run, Elk County, Pennsylvania.

Nothing was found, and the excavation ended on Wednesday, March 14.

As this is related to an ongoing investigation, any additional comment would be inappropriate at this time.


This is another point of contention that some see as nefarious, the fact the file is ongoing and sealed. Again, this is standard operating procedure on a case that has not been solved. This case may remain open for decades to come.

"related to an ongoing investigation, ay additional comment would me inappropriate at this time" ....Just an excuse, just like 57 years after JFK was assassinated thousands of files and records are still sealed.
 

"related to an ongoing investigation, ay additional comment would me inappropriate at this time" ....Just an excuse, just like 57 years after JFK was assassinated thousands of files and records are still sealed.

You could be right, it could be just an excuse. But, my point is that it is not unusual and standard operating procedure for LE (closing the scene while processing, keeping the file open but sealed, making no additional comments). Some want to make it out that its proof because they (incorrectly) believe it's unusual or unprecedented for LE to do this, when it is a common practice.
 

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Of course, if you can come up with a few bad apples, you can then paint the entire agency as crooked, including the hard working men and woman field agents of the FBI just doing their jobs. Then any evidence that is contrary to your belief, can be dismissed out of hand. Problem is, there was also county DNR officers there, County Sheriffs officers there, and civilian contractors there. You'd have to believe they are ALL crooked to advance this narrative.


The key to credibility is consistency. This is a nice example of the kind of inconsistency FinderKeeper needs to show the judge(s) in a court of law.
 

Disagree, As a former LE office of 11 years, i can assure you it is standard operating procedure of LE to close off a crime scene while it is being processed. The FBI viewed this as a crime scene. You can choose to believe it's nefarious, but it isn't. Often, some departments are so strict, they won't even let in other non essential officers on the scene.

Heres a good read in pertinent part about crime scene processing:

"Many times the arrival of additional personnel can cause problems in protecting the scene. Only those people responsible for the immediate investigation of the crime, the securing of the crime scene, and the processing of the crime scene should be present. Non-essential police officers, district attorney investigators, federal agents, politicians, etc. should never be allowed into a secured crime scene unless they can add something (other than contamination) to the crime scene investigation."

Straight and narrow much?
 

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A bit slow on the draw. The courtroom stenographer can tell you all about it.

Edited to add, I apologize to GoDeep. Even though he said two conflicting things it wasn't really fair of me to use him as an example in the manner that I did. Also I had thought GoDeep had edited a post I had already quoted. He did not, so my apologies GoDeep. I shot my mouth off too quickly this time.
 

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# 115, my comments here has nothing to do with Civil War Gold. I was in the Air Force when JFK was killed. The president must releash all of JFK records, so the trurth will come out. My opinon was there were three or four men who shot the JFK and Osward was not one of them. Big time government officers were involed. The trueth will only come out when all records and files are resease, which may never hapen. Hope I am wrong. Trump lied when he promised to released everything, but, only little was released. I hope that we all are alive and well when all information is available when we will know the trueth.
 

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