- Feb 4, 2014
- Detector(s) used
- AT PRO International, Blisstool V3, Makro Multi Kruzer
- Primary Interest:
- All Treasure Hunting
Well amigo, I must respectfully disagree with your post here on a number of points. Not to say that the ancient Egyptians were great seafarers, but they certainly did send out seagoing expeditions into an open ocean, specifically their 'secret" expeditions to the "mythical" land of Punt, which most closely agrees with the island of Sumatra. This was not a single expedition, but were sent out periodically over a period of many centuries, until Egypt was conquered and the "secret" land of Punt as well as how to get there were lost.
Their ships were not the best of their day, but the fact that they were able to sail to Punt, as well as south to southern Africa and to India as well, are fairly solid proof of their capabilities. As to their navigational skills, they probably did not have the magnetic compass, but did have something nearly as good - the "sun compass" or gnomon, which of course only works on sunny days. The pharaoh Neco even sent an expedition to circumnavigate Africa successfully, which voyage required nearly three years to accomplish.
I would also point out that some products found in ancient Egyptian tombs, originated in very distant lands; a number of mummies were tested and found to have ingested both coca and nicotine while alive, both American products, which of course the second mentioned was for some time debated, until an actual American tobacco plant leaf was found actually wound inside of an ancient Egyptian mummy's wrappings. Cloves, used widely in the ritual preparations of the dead as well as in cooking and medicine, came from the very distant Molucca islands, four thousand years before Christ and is found widespread in ancient Egypt.
This belief that the ancient cultures were land-bound has been fairly disproven at this point, the great sea explorer Robert Ballard for example has found a number of ancient shipwrecks, very far from any shore and along the direct sailing routes between ancient cities. It is perfectly logical as well, for the direct open sea routes are not only shorter but safer than hugging a coastline, where any sailor can attest, is THE most dangerous place to sail, for close in to shore lines are where you find the hidden reefs and rocks which sink the unlucky. There is even an ancient text which describes how the ancient Egyptians sailed to and from India, directly across the open Indian ocean, directing the sailor as to when is the correct time to sail to take advantage of the seasonal trade winds in order to cross in the shortest possible time and return, as well as listing the various ports of call along the route if you were to sail along the coast line which is far longer and more dangerous.
<map showing the routes used to sail to and from Egypt and India circa 100 BC>
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the Periplus Erythraeum
Internet History Sourcebooks
While I do agree that people are too quick to assume ancient inscriptions found in America must be from Egypt or Rome etc, when it is more likely that an indigenous people created them, it is also erroneous to assume that ALL such inscriptions must be by ancient Amerindians. An example I could mention would be the Kensington Runestone, left by ancient Scandinavian explorers in Minnesota over a century before Columbus sailed, or the Los Lunas dekalogue stone in New Mexico, which almost certainly predates Christ.
I hope you will keep an open mind to possibilities, and especially with a case like this one, where we can not see for ourselves what was reported. A person might look pretty foolish to strongly denounce something that could turn out to be genuine tomorrow.
No offense intended amigo, I am merely trying to point out that some of those beliefs you posted previously, are no longer held to be true by all of academia, and the evidence has been mounting that the Americas were NOT in complete isolation from the Old World in the time before Columbus. Which is not to say that whole fleets of Egyptians were crisscrossing the Atlantic, nor Roman legions trooping around Indiana, just that SOME visitors certainly did come to America and did leave us evidence of their visits.
Good luck and good hunting amigos, I hope you find the treasures that you seek.
I've never in my life seen any evidence they went to the island of sumatra. The products they traded for that came from punt don't support that theory, nor do the writings. Gold, resins, african blackwood, ebony, ivory......pretty clean it wasn't anywhere near sumatra. It was also never called punt.....that is a biblical term. The ships used to trade with punt sailed down the red sea most likely and supported by most of the legends I've seen. It's not a wide sea, they could have crossed that easily enough and their own records pretty much confirm that they did to trade with arabic peoples. None of this is considered over sea voyaging really and they were still apprehensive about it when they did it. From what I've seen.
As for the coca and other drugs on mummies, it's almost certainly and unanimously agreed among scientists that it was contamination. Mummies that have never been to north america don't show the same contamination. Pretty easy to dismiss. Egyptian conspiracy guys keep holiing onto this, but the guys doing that actual studies already agree. Any drug enforcement officer will tell you that almost everything in the USA test positive for trace elements of coca lol. As for tobacco and cloves, I've never once heard that from any reputable scientist. Although when viewing mummies at posh parties I'm sure anything is possible.
Products can move by trade to a lot of different areas. Heck there was tons of silk all over the world but it didn't mean china brought it there. Valuable goods travel far passing hand over hand. The Egyptians weren't land locked, they had plenty of boats. They did not travel long distances out to sea. Nobody at the time did. If they had they would have documented discovering a new land. They barely even discovered many new lands outside of their own geographical area. It was not profitable to do so.
Having an open mind doesn't mean believing anything someone tells you. If I were to accept this evidence as real I'd have to accept all the other theories about the welsh, chinese, templars, lost tribe of isreal etc. In which case we'd have to assume almost everyone knew of north america and never said a word about it. Pretty sketchy. Show me the Egyptian trade goods in north america. The plants. The monuments. The ports. A shipwreck close to our shore. The technology. All I've ever seen are one or two obvious fakes, even to someone like me. The only hope of a pre-viking link at all, I think may exist under water. I know mammoth bones have been pulled up by fisherman in the atlantic off the east coast.
By the way, pre-columbian evidence is real, I agree with that. There is a Viking settlement in Canada, with real artifacts recovered and documented. If you're in Newfoundland, you can see them yourself. Evidence of Egyptians is not.