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I got my Equinox 900. From your experience, what are the best beach settings to use when detecting:
  • Dry sand
  • Wet sand
  • Underwater (salt wawater)
In terms of settings. I'm looking for:
  • Sensitivity
  • Threshold
  • Target Tone
  • Recovery speed
  • Detect mode
I would like to ignore iron.
 
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I tried starting in pinpointer mode and got a signal, but no target ID in detect mode. I kept digging and chased the pinpointer signal. After more than a foot, shouldn't I eventually get a target ID in detect mode? What explains this?
Detect mode is what you should be using to find a target. Pin point mode just lets you zero in on where the target is. Black sand won't give a stable target I.D. It will give false signals at best. A detector doesn't I.D. metals. It gives a guess based on conductivity. Standard known targets, such as coins, will usually give you a typical I.D. number, but, it will depend on corrosion of the target, depth, and mineralization of the ground. It's not an exact science and if you think you can get a detector that will give you and exact I.D. of the target every time, you've been duped, or, you're expectations are WAY too high. Best thing is to start simple. Pick a detecting mode for wherever and whatever you expect to find, and keep it on the presets except for noise cancel and sensitivity settings which need to be adjusted at all sites.
 
Edit...Oops cuda beat me to it.

You want get TID numbers in pinpoint/all metal mode.

Dont know how you have detector set up.

Be sure and ground balance and noise cancel detector, pick your hunting mode, set it on 5 tone mode until you learn detector, set your sensitivity till its stable.

Only way to learn a detector is to dig everything until you learn detector.
 
. beach hunting mode 1 or 2
the id# can be misleading!
TONES!
Give it a few months!
Coins/rings many found at 14 inches some deeper!
 
Detect mode is what you should be using to find a target. Pin point mode just lets you zero in on where the target is. Black sand won't give a stable target I.D. It will give false signals at best. A detector doesn't I.D. metals. It gives a guess based on conductivity. Standard known targets, such as coins, will usually give you a typical I.D. number, but, it will depend on corrosion of the target, depth, and mineralization of the ground. It's not an exact science and if you think you can get a detector that will give you and exact I.D. of the target every time, you've been duped, or, you're expectations are WAY too high. Best thing is to start simple. Pick a detecting mode for wherever and whatever you expect to find, and keep it on the presets except for noise cancel and sensitivity settings which need to be adjusted at all sites.
This is very helpful.

I didn't find anything today. I would get a signal, then dig and find nothing. At times I would get a signal at one spot, then later I wouldn't get a signal. Also I would get a few signals near each other and dig and wouldn't find anything. I noticed black sand around these places so it sounds like that might explain some of these phantom signals.

About getting an exact target ID of the target everytime, that's a misunderstanding on my part.

I'm still learning all of this stuff.

Edit: I know detect mode should be used first. I wanted to experiment with using pinpointer mode to see if I can find targets faster.
 
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This is very helpful.

I didn't find anything today. I would get a signal, then dig and find nothing. At times I would get a signal at one spot, then later I wouldn't get a signal. Also I would get a few signals near each other and dig and wouldn't find anything. I noticed black sand around these places so it sounds like that might explain some of these phantom signals.

About getting an exact target ID of the target everytime, that's a misunderstanding on my part.

I'm still learning all of this stuff.

When you say signal, was signal repeatable while swinging coil left to right?

Dont worry about the TID#s now, when you get a repeatable signal dig it, once you dig it up then if you want write down what tid# was and save it for future reference. Each time you dig a target record tid# for future ref, but be aware all a tid# is, is a software guess based on a program algorithm.

When you first start detecting it is important to learn what the detector is telling you and the only way you will know what detector is telling you is by digging every target.
 
This is very helpful.

I didn't find anything today. I would get a signal, then dig and find nothing. At times I would get a signal at one spot, then later I wouldn't get a signal. Also I would get a few signals near each other and dig and wouldn't find anything. I noticed black sand around these places so it sounds like that might explain some of these phantom signals.

About getting an exact target ID of the target everytime, that's a misunderstanding on my part.

I'm still learning all of this stuff.
Disappearing signals used to drive me crazy 14 years ago when I switched from land to beach hunting. Happened over and over. One day, it happened again and I got so frustrated that I shoved my scoop back in the hole, grabbed another bucketful of sand, dumped, ran my coil over that pile and low & behold, I had a signal in the pile, and it was a coin. What happens is when a coin is lying flat in the sand, it presents a nice, round, large target for the detector.

But sometimes, when you're shoving your scoop into the hole, the coin gets pushed to the side of the hole and is now standing vertically, rather than lying horizontally. When it's standing upright, there's only the tiny width of the coin for the coil to detect. And when a coin is down deep, there's not enough surface area of the coin for the coil to detect. So, any time you get a signal on the beach, dig, then the signal disappears, make it a habit to always grab another scoopful of sand because chances are good that you'll get the target in that scoopful and it will be a coin.
 
make it a habit to always grab another scoopful of sand because chances are good that you'll get the target in that scoopful and it will be a coin.
I did that many times and I would end up with nothing, or I would get a signal in the sand pile like you did, then start sifting through that sand (also using my pinpointer) and there wouldn't be anything in there.

I turned my sensitivity down from 20 to 15, but that didn't see to make a difference.

I have
  • Iron ignored (the horseshoe button)
  • Iron Bias = 9
  • Accept/Reject = -19
 
Target could be so small it falls through holes of scoop, happen to me in my old scoop till I added mesh at bottom corner edge of scoop where final drain point is. After adding mesh I found multiple earring studs that would have fallen through before mesh was added.

What scoop do you use?
 
Target could be so small it falls through holes of scoop, happen to me in my old scoop till I added mesh at bottom corner edge of scoop where final drain point is. After adding mesh I found multiple earring studs that would have fallen through before mesh was added.

What scoop do you use?
This is the type of scoop. I forgot to consider that things might fall thru.

I just feel like I'm getting an abnormally high number of signals which makes me think many are false signals.
 

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This is the type of scoop. I forgot to consider that things might fall thru.

I just feel like I'm getting an abnormally high number of signals which makes me think many are false signals.

You need a good long handle scoop like this... They cost more, but they can be sold 5 years later for 75% of what you paid for it speaking from experience.

Notice the hole pattern at the bottom too. Small ones at bottom edge catches the tiny targets.

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This is the type of scoop. I forgot to consider that things might fall thru.

I just feel like I'm getting an abnormally high number of signals which makes me think many are false signals.
Those are some pretty large holes, I can see lots of targets falling through. Like Treasure Hunter said, you need to get a long-handled scoop for hunting beaches and shallow water that have a combination of larger holes on the sides but smaller holes or rectangular cut outs in the center and/or back of bucket to capture smaller items. My long-handled scoop is 14 years old and has round holes, but they're smaller than the holes in your scoop. Your hand scoop is designed for the casual hobbyist and only really for dry sand. The large holes allow the dry sand to drain quickly from the bucket. When you find a target on the dry, you have plenty of time to futz around to try to find the target. But when you're on the wet and have rushing water coming in, or out working in shallow water, you don't want to keep losing your target back into the water. If you drop your small target onto the wet, and water comes rushing in, no telling where that target is gonna wind up. When on the wet or in shallow water, and you know the target is in your scoop, walk up quickly towards the high wet or into the dry to dump, then start searching through the sand to find.

Couple months ago, I took my "new to me" Dual Field PI out for the first time. I knew that PI's are very sensitive, but damn, I scooped out a target, ran coil over the pile, it was there, kept looking, it's in there, still can't find, feeling around with my fingers, I know it's in there, lol. I didn't have my pinpointer with me, so I just grabbed a handful of sand, ran over coil then had to start looking through small areas of sand in my hand. Finally found the sucker, it was a very small eyelet or rivet, about the size of a BB. It kept falling through the holes in my scoop, so I had to use my fingers to find it. It was several inches down, but my PI hit on that small rivet like I ran the coil over a refrigerator.
 
Find a section of dry sand or other target free ground and place a selection of coins and other targets to test. This will give you a base line of what the signals will sound like on a good target. It can also help you find the sweet spot on the coil for pin pointing purposes.
 
Those are some pretty large holes, I can see lots of targets falling through. Like Treasure Hunter said, you need to get a long-handled scoop for hunting beaches and shallow water that have a combination of larger holes on the sides but smaller holes or rectangular cut outs in the center and/or back of bucket to capture smaller items. My long-handled scoop is 14 years old and has round holes, but they're smaller than the holes in your scoop. Your hand scoop is designed for the casual hobbyist and only really for dry sand. The large holes allow the dry sand to drain quickly from the bucket. When you find a target on the dry, you have plenty of time to futz around to try to find the target. But when you're on the wet and have rushing water coming in, or out working in shallow water, you don't want to keep losing your target back into the water. If you drop your small target onto the wet, and water comes rushing in, no telling where that target is gonna wind up. When on the wet or in shallow water, and you know the target is in your scoop, walk up quickly towards the high wet or into the dry to dump, then start searching through the sand to find.

Couple months ago, I took my "new to me" Dual Field PI out for the first time. I knew that PI's are very sensitive, but damn, I scooped out a target, ran coil over the pile, it was there, kept looking, it's in there, still can't find, feeling around with my fingers, I know it's in there, lol. I didn't have my pinpointer with me, so I just grabbed a handful of sand, ran over coil then had to start looking through small areas of sand in my hand. Finally found the sucker, it was a very small eyelet or rivet, about the size of a BB. It kept falling through the holes in my scoop, so I had to use my fingers to find it. It was several inches down, but my PI hit on that small rivet like I ran the coil over a refrigerator.
Thank you. Can you post a link to your dual field PI?
 
Thank you. Can you post a link to your dual field PI?
Sure, here ya go.

Keep in mind that my Dual Field was originally owned and modded by OBN. One mod allows for the use of any headphones; I have Tony Eisenhower's Diver's headphones with impedance matching circuitry on the Dual Field. The other mod adds an external Excal battery pod, which replaces the need to open the lid of the control box to change batteries. The Excal battery pod uses bigger batteries than standard AAs, and are rechargeable, so it will give me about 2x the run time compared to replacing or charging batteries inside the control box.
 

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Sure, here ya go.

Keep in mind that my Dual Field was originally owned and modded by OBN. One mod allows for the use of any headphones; I have Tony Eisenhower's Diver's headphones with impedance matching circuitry on the Dual Field. The other mod adds an external Excal battery pod, which replaces the need to open the lid of the control box to change batteries. The Excal battery pod uses bigger batteries than standard AAs, and are rechargeable, so it will give me about 2x the run time compared to loading batteries inside the control box.
This is made by Whites. I think I came a across this detector before. I thought I hears Whites is out of business. Is that true?

If so, then I guess there is no place where you can buy a brand new one.
 
Whites went out of business over 5 years ago. Very doubtful anyone has a new one, and if someone had one there would be no warranty.
 
Whites went out of business over 5 years ago. Very doubtful anyone has a new one, and if someone had one there would be no warranty.
That's what I thought. I was considering a PI detector to use completely underwater right off the beach.

Are there any other options?

I wonder why Whites went out of business? I thought they were a pretty well established company.
 
This is made by Whites. I think I came a across this detector before. I thought I hears Whites is out of business. Is that true?

If so, then I guess there is no place where you can buy a brand new one.
Yes, White's has been out of business for 5 years, so you'd have to look for a used one. Sometimes, you might be able to find a "new" one, basically one that someone bought new but never used, or a dealer who may have had it squirreled away.

One of my buddies on another forum recently picked up a "brand new", White's TDI Pro. It was made in 2010 but was never sold, so it was still wrapped in original plastic wrap. So, sometimes, you might get lucky and find a new one never used, or even a used one that wasn't used much. There are some people out there who buy a new detector, use it once or twice, then put it in the closet never to be used again.
 
Yes, White's has been out of business for 5 years, so you'd have to look for a used one. Sometimes, you might be able to find a "new" one, basically one that someone bought new but never used, or a dealer who may have had it squirreled away.

One of my buddies on another forum recently picked up a "brand new", White's TDI Pro. It was made in 2010 but was never sold, so it was still wrapped in original plastic wrap. So, sometimes, you might get lucky and find a new one never used, or even a used one that wasn't used much. There are some people out there who buy a new detector, use it once or twice, then put it in the closet never to be used again.

I am trying to find a PI detector that can go down past 20 ft.
 

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