Finally hit the 1700's help needed

gold panner · Jul 30, 2017

I hit a new field today and got two firsts a cut copper and a 1700's copper, so it was an awesome day for me. The problem is I can not if either of my finds. Any help would be greatly appreciated. The first thing I need help with is the cut copper it has the letters basc or besc going around the edge. The large copper looks like it is facing right and is 17-- I believe it is a liberty cap but do not dare to clean it .i also do not know what the double ring is. Here are some pics hopefully they are readable

digging440yrs · Jul 30, 2017

I tried but either my eyes are getting worse or the pics are blurry. Nice finds tho :icon_thumright:

RVRoamer74 · Jul 30, 2017

Nice find !! Sometimes I will use my magnifier app on my cell phone and get the light just perfect while holding the coin and you might get a little bit of a shadow out of it this way. You could do both sides if you wanted to, I'm sure someone will come along that may recognize it if you can get some better pics of it. Congratulations on a nice find !!

Scrappy · Jul 30, 2017

What's the thickness of the coin? A few of your other finds also suggest 18th century. Sword scabbard hardware came to mind with the double ring, but I don't think that's what it is.

Nice digs

gold panner · Jul 30, 2017

Scrappy the cut coin is thinner then a large cent it is the exact same thickness as the 17-- coin i will try to post a better pic

gold panner · Jul 30, 2017

Here is a better pic

trapperart · Jul 30, 2017

Congrats on the old coppers, hope you get an ID

Scrappy · Jul 30, 2017

gold panner said:
Scrappy the cut coin is thinner then a large cent it is the exact same thickness as the 17-- coin i will try to post a better pic

Thx. With the thickness in mind, you probably have British copper or state copper. Early Lib caps are wicked thick and later ones are thinner, approx the same diameter as DBLC's and latter.

Don't be afraid to clean the copper. There are varying opinions to cleaning old copper, but a cold peroxide soak for a day or more won't affect it. Anyway, I probably wasn't much help but maybe it'll start you in the right direction. Nice digs

gold panner · Jul 30, 2017

thanks scrappy i will give it a try. fingers crossed eventhogh i know i probably will not get much more

Bramblefind · Jul 30, 2017

Nice finds! Are you in or near Canada? I think your cut coin could be from an 1837 Lower Canada (Bas Canada) token. There are halfpenny (un sou) and penny (deux sous) sizes. The other side would be where the "Bank" legend is on the reverse.

gold panner · Jul 30, 2017

bramblefind i am in vermont i found these coins about 30 miles from the boarder. you guys are amazing at id things.
thanks

Bill D. (VA) · Jul 31, 2017

Could your cut coin be a counterfeit 18th century silver? Sorta has that look. How did it read on your machine?

gold panner · Jul 31, 2017

bill it read at a perfect 80 on the at pro and was probably five inches down. I am actually surprised i found it with a really good signal. The fields in that area are really hard to hit i do not know if it is due to mineralization or what i have noticed is cow manure gives false signals.

Professor of Engineering · Jul 31, 2017

Congratualtions on the very nice old coppers and relics! :occasion14:

A2coins · Jul 31, 2017

I agree with manure giving false signals I dig it allk the time as some of my todays finds show!!!!! Great fin d if I was in a 1700s field I would dig everything now your in the 1700s club. I wanna join!! Thanks for sharing your finds..

gold panner · Aug 1, 2017

A2 it is hard to dig everything. All fields around here still have plenty of modern trash in them. including lots of foil, random iron and of course can slaw, but i try to dig everything that sounds good and pack out the trash.

Kurios1 · Aug 1, 2017

gold panner said:
bill it read at a perfect 80 on the at pro and was probably five inches down. I am actually surprised i found it with a really good signal. The fields in that area are really hard to hit i do not know if it is due to mineralization or what i have noticed is cow manure gives false signals.

Are the cows eating stinkin' zincolns!?! Oh my Heavens NO!!! :BangHead: