Found GOLD in the BRADSHAWS......updated by db

[DanB]

This rock tips the scales just over 20 lbs.......Found today in the Bradshaws.... .....just stumbled on to it.....walking in a fresh (new) river bed.....carved out by a winter storm....
This thing makes the metal detector SCREAM.....
db

 

[john adams]

Tuatara
You said
Nobody crushes valuable species. I believe this suggestion is some sort of a practical joke.

Unless someone has a buyer for gold in rocks,which would bankrupt a gold buyer fast then they must be crushed to dolly out the rock. Has been the way since gold was valuable.
We do it to some extent on a daily basis.
Of course a really pretty piece is worth trying to find a buyer. A example posted on a different forum by a friend of mine.
Even if that rock was slabbed I don't see it paying as well or fast as dollying it up and getting a sellable product now.

John

 

[CRUSADER]

Tuatara
You said
Nobody crushes valuable species. I believe this suggestion is some sort of a practical joke.

Unless someone has a buyer for gold in rocks,which would bankrupt a gold buyer fast then they must be crushed to dolly out the rock. Has been the way since gold was valuable.
We do it to some extent on a daily basis.
Of course a really pretty piece is worth trying to find a buyer. A example posted on a different forum by a friend of mine.
Even if that rock was slabbed I don't see it paying as well or fast as dollying it up and getting a sellable product now.

John

Good answer, now we are learning including me (gold finds over here are rare) - THANKS!

 

[kuger]

Tuatara
You said
Nobody crushes valuable species. I believe this suggestion is some sort of a practical joke.

Unless someone has a buyer for gold in rocks,which would bankrupt a gold buyer fast then they must be crushed to dolly out the rock. Has been the way since gold was valuable.
We do it to some extent on a daily basis.
Of course a really pretty piece is worth trying to find a buyer. A example posted on a different forum by a friend of mine.
Even if that rock was slabbed I don't see it paying as well or fast as dollying it up and getting a sellable product now.

John

Very well said and exactly spot on,I kind of said that from the get go of this post.....I have just been sitting back giggling.You have to realize %99 of the people posting about how RICH,the finder is dont have a clue

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Nobody crushes valuable speccies. I believe this suggestion is some sort of a practical joke.

These are some of the questions that need attention. Unlike Treasure_Hunter suggestions, I've given up on the how much & weight, I'm interested in the why?
Otherwise this suggestions the best course of action for those that read this & don't know better. I always thought that TN was about learning. Whether Treasure_Hunter thinks I'm impling he's rude doesn't bother me (because I'm not), 99% of the time I'm respectful to everyone, even those that attack me.

If you post this kind of find - you have to expect this (lively debate, those that have questions, those that don't care, those that don't have a clue, those that do) It's this that makes it a great place, does it not?

CRUSADER,

I do not think you are being rude to me. I object to those who said Dan was being rude for not answering every question they asked.

It is my belief that what a person does with the finds they dig up or find is their business, and no one elses, they choose to share pictures and what info they wish to share with us is great, and what they don't wish to share is their right, and they should not be badgered about it.........

 

[Silver Searcher]

Nobody crushes valuable speccies. I believe this suggestion is some sort of a practical joke.

These are some of the questions that need attention. Unlike Treasure_Hunter suggestions, I've given up on the how much & weight, I'm interested in the why?
Otherwise this suggestions the best course of action for those that read this & don't know better. I always thought that TN was about learning. Whether Treasure_Hunter thinks I'm impling he's rude doesn't bother me (because I'm not), 99% of the time I'm respectful to everyone, even those that attack me.

If you post this kind of find - you have to expect this (lively debate, those that have questions, those that don't care, those that don't have a clue, those that do) It's this that makes it a great place, does it not?

CRUSADER,

I do not think you are being rude to me. I object to those who said Dan was being rude for not answering every question they asked.
SS

It is my belief that what a person does with the finds they dig up or find is their business, and no one elses, they choose to share pictures and what info they wish to share with us is great, and what they don't wish to share is their right, and they should not be baggered about it.........

I know & agree. (I can read your CAPS above your Avatar)
You reply to a lot of people, you don't ignore there questions & I would hope that when asked something you don't want to share you would reply so. Ignoring lots of similar questions without replys get us where we are now.......

I find it strange you first reply in this thread was tag and your second was six days later yet now you keep asking for more details it seems the poster doesn't want to give them...let's just leeve it there, it's his find and post

Congrats on making the Banner

SS

 

[CRUSADER]

Tuatara
You said
Nobody crushes valuable species. I believe this suggestion is some sort of a practical joke.

Unless someone has a buyer for gold in rocks,which would bankrupt a gold buyer fast then they must be crushed to dolly out the rock. Has been the way since gold was valuable.
We do it to some extent on a daily basis.
Of course a really pretty piece is worth trying to find a buyer. A example posted on a different forum by a friend of mine.
Even if that rock was slabbed I don't see it paying as well or fast as dollying it up and getting a sellable product now.

John

Very well said and exactly spot on,I kind of said that from the get go of this post.....I have just been sitting back giggling.You have to realize %99 of the people posting about how RICH,the finder is dont have a clue

These sort of facts is some of what I was after (the weight of Gold would have been a bonus), this interests me because its a gap in my knowledge.

 

[Silver Searcher]

Wow so you just wanted to know about the facts of the find how much Gold, what's it worth ect. You just couldn't say great find, banner worthy...not the first time, and as for you comments about judjing from pictures we not talking about a coin that might be fake are we

And now I see you removed your earlier posts

SS

 

[Steve in Michigan]

I would not separate it. Its worth more as a specimen. Its hard to find gold that size anymore. I would definetly get it appraised before doing anything to it. Great Great find.

Your Friend,

Steve in Michigan

Banner for Sure!

 

[rmptr]

John, those are very nice specimens.

I wouldn't doubt you'll get offers on them, if they are for sale.

rmptr

 

[WeaponsUSMC]

Congrats on the great find, what information you decide to share is your choice. Although there is a lot of bickering going on in this thread, I have learned a ton of information on a topic I had no clue about. Great thread even though I had to read through everything else to get at the usefull information.

 

[Johnny Ringo Silver]

I find it amazing that a specimen this size is found and I am gratefull that I got to see a picture of it!
I find it rediculous that people get offended because their questions are not answered right away or at all! This man didnt have to share one bit of this story, but chose to do so. Yes, its possible this would be worth more if left whole, but maybe each one of them wanted their own little piece to keep and cherish....either way its none of our buisness how it turns out! I dont recall ever seeing him say that they have actually broke it up yet either! Maybe theres a reason for not coming out and giving every single detail! I think its awesome that him and his buddies got to experience such a thing and hope for it to happen to all of you gold hounds. If the guy is as busy as he sounds, he probably dont have the time to sit down and soothe all of your belly aching anyway. 8)

 

[dneyedli@res1.mts.net]

I'm no expert here but how is a specimen collector going to estimate how much gold is in that massive rock? Everyone keeps saying that it is worth more as a specimen. I can't see that because it is such a massive rock and could be mostly quartz. I'm pretty sure that professional gold hounds would have broken up a rock like this 9 out 10 times to know how much value there is. No one in a million years would know how much gold is in that rock unless they processed it or can you actually x-ray it?
What if specimen collectors estimated there to be x amount of gold, bid accordingly and there was actually way more gold in the center? How can we tell from a picture?
Logic would have made the decision for me to break it up! Staring at a rock as beautiful as it is, doesn't pay the bills!
Like I said, I am no expert though.
Great find no matter what is done with it.
Dave.

 

[gollum]

I'm no expert here but how is a specimen collector going to estimate how much gold is in that massive rock? Everyone keeps saying that it is worth more as a specimen. I can't see that because it is such a massive rock and could be mostly quartz. I'm pretty sure that professional gold hounds would have broken up a rock like this 9 out 10 times to actually know how much value there is. No one in a million years would know how much gold is in that rock unless they processed it or can you actually x-ray it?
What if specimen collectors estimated there to be x amount of gold, bid accordingly and there was actually way more gold in the center? How can we tell from a picture?
Logic would have made the decision for me to break it up! Staring at a rock as beautiful as it is, doesn't pay the bills!
Like I said, I am no expert though.
Great find no matter what is done with it.
Dave.

Muddy,

Its already been talked about earlier in this thread, but there is a test for determining the gold to quartz in ore. Its' called a Specific Gravity Test.

This site will explain it: http://www.gold-nuggets.org/specific-gravity-test.htm

Best-Mike

 

[dneyedli@res1.mts.net]

I'm no expert here but how is a specimen collector going to estimate how much gold is in that massive rock? Everyone keeps saying that it is worth more as a specimen. I can't see that because it is such a massive rock and could be mostly quartz. I'm pretty sure that professional gold hounds would have broken up a rock like this 9 out 10 times to actually know how much value there is. No one in a million years would know how much gold is in that rock unless they processed it or can you actually x-ray it?
What if specimen collectors estimated there to be x amount of gold, bid accordingly and there was actually way more gold in the center? How can we tell from a picture?
Logic would have made the decision for me to break it up! Staring at a rock as beautiful as it is, doesn't pay the bills!
Like I said, I am no expert though.
Great find no matter what is done with it.
Dave.

Muddy,

Its already been talked about earlier in this thread, but there is a test for determining the gold to quartz in ore. Its' called a Specific Gravity Test.

This site will explain it: http://www.gold-nuggets.org/specific-gravity-test.htm

Best-Mike

Thanks Mike, that is good to know. I am learning a lot from this thread. How would you determine the matrix?
I guess there is probably test for that too. So based on the formulas from that website, we can determine how much gold is in that rock?
Interesting.
Dave.

 

[gollum]

You can only determine that if you have the weight of the specimen in air and in water. Then you can use the formula to figure the gold content.

The owner (with good reason) is keeping some of that information under his hat.

Best-Mike

 

[CRUSADER]

I'm no expert here but how is a specimen collector going to estimate how much gold is in that massive rock? Everyone keeps saying that it is worth more as a specimen. I can't see that because it is such a massive rock and could be mostly quartz. I'm pretty sure that professional gold hounds would have broken up a rock like this 9 out 10 times to actually know how much value there is. No one in a million years would know how much gold is in that rock unless they processed it or can you actually x-ray it?
What if specimen collectors estimated there to be x amount of gold, bid accordingly and there was actually way more gold in the center? How can we tell from a picture?
Logic would have made the decision for me to break it up! Staring at a rock as beautiful as it is, doesn't pay the bills!
Like I said, I am no expert though.
Great find no matter what is done with it.
Dave.

Muddy,

Its already been talked about earlier in this thread, but there is a test for determining the gold to quartz in ore. Its' called a Specific Gravity Test.

This site will explain it: http://www.gold-nuggets.org/specific-gravity-test.htm

Best-Mike

Thanks Mike, that is good to know. I am learning a lot from this thread. How would you determine the matrix?
I guess there is probably test for that too. So based on the formulas from that website, we can determine how much gold is in that rock?
Interesting.
Dave.

Now we are learning (me included)

 

[gollum]

No worries. I'm just here for the beer to help!

Best-Mike

 

[hogge]

I've followed this post from the start, and was curious as to what other members had to say before I piped in. Seems as though opinions on this find are as varied as the individuals who have posted them. There isn't any doubt in my mind that I would sell that thing, AFTER I extracted ALL the gold, powder, flakes ,and nuggets. As for this whole weight equasion, ratio stuff, to determine how much gold is actually contained in this thing, I would NOT put stock in this AT ALL. Common sense says bust this up and extract the GOLD. What do you think a mining company would do with this thing? Save it for posterity? Everyone has their own priorities. For me it's cash. Not everyone is independantly wealthy. I've had some great finds that I have sold for some serious cash recently. This is why I got into this "hobby", and thats what I am going to continue to do, whether it's looked down upon by some members or not. Ultimately it's up to the owner as to what he wants to do with it. In any case, good luck and CONGRATULATIONS on a tremendous BANNER FIND!!! Hogge P.S. Stick that in your smelter and melt it!

 

[Hardy]

NICE FIND

 

[hogge]

NICE FIND

Well said. I guess I could have said this too, but for some reason I can't keep my mouth shut. Tried it once........Just didn't work for me.