Found my oldest silver (17??) I think. Need Id.

[richm]

Dug this at a 1740 homestead that they demolished. I wasn't having much luck and decided to try the piles of dirt that were dug up. Also found a matron head L.C. that I"m soaking, picture to come soon. I can see the 17 part of the date but don't recognize the coin?? Looks like T's or 1's on the reverse....... It's about the size of a dime but very thin and holed.......Rich.

 

[romeo-1]

Half reale...nice!

 

[romeo-1]

...or could be a one reale...

 

[IronSpike]

Yep reale, nice find It reads Carolus and I think the year is 1767.

 

[Iron Patch]

Yep reale, nice find It reads Carolus and I think the year is 1767.

I'd say more likely 1787. (Don't think that style dates in the 60s, and I actually do see what looks like the 8 )

 

[IronSpike]

Yep reale, nice find It reads Carolus and I think the year is 1767.

I'd say more likely 1787. (Don't think that style dates in the 60s, and I actually do see what looks like the 8 )

Not much to go on, but we both agree on the 7.

http://images.google.com/imgres?img...s+silver+reale&hl=en&rlz=1G1ACGW_ENUS342&um=1

 

[Iron Patch]

Yep reale, nice find It reads Carolus and I think the year is 1767.

I'd say more likely 1787. (Don't think that style dates in the 60s, and I actually do see what looks like the 8 )

Not much to go on, but we both agree on the 7.

http://images.google.com/imgres?img...s+silver+reale&hl=en&rlz=1G1ACGW_ENUS342&um=1

I think you posted that one a little too quick. (Replica) It is a beauty though.

 

[IronSpike]

Yep reale, nice find It reads Carolus and I think the year is 1767.

I'd say more likely 1787. (Don't think that style dates in the 60s, and I actually do see what looks like the 8 )

Not much to go on, but we both agree on the 7.

http://images.google.com/imgres?img...s+silver+reale&hl=en&rlz=1G1ACGW_ENUS342&um=1

I think you posted that one a little too quick. (Replica)

Replica or real still a good pic of what it would look like. On the link the poster appear to correct his 1st reply calling it fake with follow up half reale

 

[Iron Patch]

Yep reale, nice find It reads Carolus and I think the year is 1767.

I'd say more likely 1787. (Don't think that style dates in the 60s, and I actually do see what looks like the 8 )

Not much to go on, but we both agree on the 7.

http://images.google.com/imgres?img...s+silver+reale&hl=en&rlz=1G1ACGW_ENUS342&um=1

I think you posted that one a little too quick. (Replica)

Replica or real still a good pic of what it would look like. On the link the poster appear to correct his 1st reply calling it fake with follow up half reale

I didn't read the thread but good to see they got it right. (except it's an 8 reale)

 

[richm]

You guys are awesome Every time I go on this forum it's a history lesson. I have a question for you guys though. Below is a pic of my find and two pics from google image. Why are they all holed....Rich.

 

[Woodland Detectors]

Hey Rich. Good to see you over here.

Nice find on the silver man

 

[Iron Patch]

You guys are awesome Every time I go on this forum it's a history lesson. I have a question for you guys though. Below is a pic of my find and two pics from google image. Why are they all holed....Rich.

There's several reasons coins were holed. A few are... pendants, put on bracelets, sew in clothes to travel with, worn by Indians, nailed to houses... I believe once they were complete and was a way to date them... and the number one reason coins were holed (Drum Roll) JUST FOR THE HELL OF IT!

 

[IronSpike]

You guys are awesome Every time I go on this forum it's a history lesson. I have a question for you guys though. Below is a pic of my find and two pics from google image. Why are they all holed....Rich.

There's several reasons coins were holed. A few are... pendants, put on bracelets, sew in clothes to travel with, worn by Indians, nailed to houses... I believe once they were complete and was a way to date them... and the number one reason coins were holed (Drum Roll) JUST FOR THE HELL OF IT!

Never knew nailed to houses A small silver ring/eye and your pendant is a nice as they come. Nice peace of history

 

[Iron Patch]

You guys are awesome Every time I go on this forum it's a history lesson. I have a question for you guys though. Below is a pic of my find and two pics from google image. Why are they all holed....Rich.

There's several reasons coins were holed. A few are... pendants, put on bracelets, sew in clothes to travel with, worn by Indians, nailed to houses... I believe once they were complete and was a way to date them... and the number one reason coins were holed (Drum Roll) JUST FOR THE HELL OF IT!

Never knew nailed to houses A small silver ring/eye and your pendant is a nice as they come. Nice peace of history

I know they did and my post is just what I am able to recall, someone might better be able to explain it, or search for the answer.

 

[IronSpike]

You guys are awesome Every time I go on this forum it's a history lesson. I have a question for you guys though. Below is a pic of my find and two pics from google image. Why are they all holed....Rich.

There's several reasons coins were holed. A few are... pendants, put on bracelets, sew in clothes to travel with, worn by Indians, nailed to houses... I believe once they were complete and was a way to date them... and the number one reason coins were holed (Drum Roll) JUST FOR THE HELL OF IT!

Never knew nailed to houses A small silver ring/eye and your pendant is a nice as they come. Nice peace of history

I know they did and my post is just what I am able to recall, someone might better be able to explain it, or search for the answer.

I think you covered most of the reasons and the nailed to house makes sense. Kind of like when when coins were placed in house foundations for dating and/or good luck.

 

[Iron Patch]

You guys are awesome Every time I go on this forum it's a history lesson. I have a question for you guys though. Below is a pic of my find and two pics from google image. Why are they all holed....Rich.

There's several reasons coins were holed. A few are... pendants, put on bracelets, sew in clothes to travel with, worn by Indians, nailed to houses... I believe once they were complete and was a way to date them... and the number one reason coins were holed (Drum Roll) JUST FOR THE HELL OF IT!

Never knew nailed to houses A small silver ring/eye and your pendant is a nice as they come. Nice peace of history

I know they did and my post is just what I am able to recall, someone might better be able to explain it, or search for the answer.

I think you covered most of the reasons and the nailed to house makes sense. Kind of like when when coins were placed in house foundations for dating and/or good luck.

Well if that is the case I think you just answered why they nailed them, just an alternative... probably for places without a foundation.

 

[johnnyi]

Interesting about the silver coin being nailed to a wall, which I guess is a rarer occurance. It's pretty common to hear of a penny placed under the window sill, under the hearth, or a penny occasionally nailed to a house. Rich, seriously though (I know you were asking seriously ) the odds of your particular coin being nailed are slim for a lot of reasons, some being it appears to have been circulated well after the hole was made, and the placement of the hole itself would more likely be in its center. (Patch, was your's nailed in the center?)
A large percentage of the reales we find are holed, and the prevailing wisdom is that in most cases this is because they were worn; sewed beneath the garments of sailors for one, who had no pockets on their early uniforms.

Yet, who am I to argue with Patch. Considering some of the wierd stuff we dig up, he might be spot on with "JUST FOR THE HELL OF IT!"

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I agree, no pockets, to keep from losing them. Its the same reason there are holes in chinese cash coins- to string them together.

 

[Iron Patch]

Interesting about the silver coin being nailed to a wall, which I guess is a rarer occurance. It's pretty common to hear of a penny placed under the window sill, under the hearth, or a penny occasionally nailed to a house. Rich, seriously though (I know you were asking seriously ) the odds of your particular coin being nailed are slim for a lot of reasons, some being it appears to have been circulated well after the hole was made, and the placement of the hole itself would more likely be in its center. (Patch, was your's nailed in the center?)
A large percentage of the reales we find are holed, and the prevailing wisdom is that in most cases this is because they were worn; sewed beneath the garments of sailors for one, who had no pockets on their early uniforms.

Yet, who am I to argue with Patch. Considering some of the wierd stuff we dig up, he might be spot on with "JUST FOR THE HELL OF IT!"

If you read my replies you will not see a suggestion of a real being nailed to anything.

 

[johnnyi]

"I didn't read the thread but good to see they got it right."

Ha! yes IronPatch, I didn't read enough either!