Global Warming*%#*

[relicmeister]

The Global Warmers are "feverishly" working to reconcile the admitted cooling trend to their GW narrative. I just read an article
that the warming has reversed because stronger trade winds are driving the warmer water down deep and the colder surface water\is making the atmosphere colder, but that this is temporary and the warming will speed up in a few years when the winds
change, so we just have to stop using fossil fuels. Remember, the new green movement isn't really green - it's red!

 

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[Bum Luck]

OK What determines climate? The weather.

Climate is a measure of the average pattern of variation in temperature, humidity, atmospheric pressure, wind, precipitation, atmospheric particle count and other meteorological variables in a given region over long periods of time. Climate is different than weather, in that weather only describes the short-term conditions of these variables in a given region.

That's funny, Why is a really hot summer with record highs evidence of global warming but a record cold winter isn't evidence there is no global warming?

And YES, MMGW scientists are trying to find data to support a belief.

You can believe whatever you want to believe. But scientists can't operate on belief systems.

 

[JunkShopFiddler]

Why is that not a question based in reality? I really don't get this whole linear thinking thing you keep talking about. Can you explain it to me please? Is there a non-linear way that we can make the earth's fossil fuels last forever at our current rate of consumption?

Your thinking is counter productive to your concerns...If folks who think as you do would leave us fossil fuel fans alone to "use up" all the fuels you find offensive, the sooner the better for you right? Grant us the freedom to use them up quickly and your troubles would be over...A win win situation!

 

[Bum Luck]

Terry J. Lovell is a professor of Business, Computer Science, District Workforce at Yavapai College, a little community college in Arizona. Here's his academic credentials as he lists them:

• BA - Sociology, The University of Montana-Miss (1975)
• MBA - Business Administration, DNU-Arizona State University (1985)
• Ph.D. - Business, Other College (1993)

Yavapai College: Terry J. Lovell

Maybe he had dual majors and didn't list the Masters in mathematics from MIT and PhD in Physics from Harvard because it would price him out of the Yavapai College faculty.

I've never heard of "Other College". Wonder where that is?

 

[gusser]

REMEMBER-Decades ago science said the hole in the Ozone Layer would kill us all by now? Money grants are given to find a problem. FAKE or otherwise. Money grants are not given if no problem is found. Common sense deniers are everywhere. The science worshippers are strangely silent about Steven Hawking. One of their gurus, that admitted he was WRONG and his theory taught over the last 40 years in "higher indoctrination centers" was a money pit. The "edumacated" ones have lost all common sense.

 

[xrunndonex]

Just ask the guy that controls the weather.
Yes the earth is warming..does man have a hand in it ?...NO.

Mike

Uhmm look up I forgot the company but they can make weather change.

 

[Msbeepbeep]

Back in the 80's they said there was an increase of 2 degrees a year, so if summer temps are about 80 degrees, that's
34X2=68 + 80 = 148 degree summer temp....... excuse me while I throw another log on the fire, before I freeze!

 

[JunkShopFiddler]

So when whale oil was used we had electric lighting all over the world?

As for "Government intervention is NEVER the answer" you just proved my point. That's "binary thinking". Or do you think speed limits are a bad idea and people would be much better off without such "intervention" on behalf of the government? We give the government the right to intervene in our lives every day for thousands of things and it generally suits us as long as they don't overstep their bounds too much. But you find a case where that intervention pisses you off and suddenly "government intervention is NEVER the answer!". Really? Hmmm.... maybe my kids shouldn't be going to school? Maybe I should be burying my trash and feces in my own back yard? Maybe I should be responsible for paving my own street or going to get my own letters from the person who wants to send them to me? Maybe I should personally inspect the kitchens of all of the restaurants I eat at? And on, and on, and on, and on.....

By the way, I never said that I agreed with the idea of government intervention in the case of alternative energies. I may or may not believe that it is called for in certain situations. But I never really said that. You assumed that though.

Not assuming anything personal...Here is the problem traditionalists, or right wingers, or whatever you want to call us have with Government intervention... Government intervention should only be done in order to protect and encourage certain unalienable rights, such as Life, liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

It is when Government intervenes to restrict these rights that the red flags go up!

Speed limits, sewer laws, and street paving, etc make possible the continuation of these rights. it is not questionable data that makes speed limits necessary. It is not questionable data that makes sewer lines or education necessary. But seriously folks, global climate change, whatever you may call it is based on questionable data and politically biased theories. Should we have our liberties abolished and our finances ruined, our jobs and chosen careers extinguished, all because these scientists have a theory that gets more press time than those other scientists that have a different theory?

Government intervention is good when it promotes good, and bad when it promotes bad...simply put, I admit, but the problem here is some folks have their ideas of good and bad confused. I am convinced that the average believer in "man made" climate change is seriously and respectfully concerned about the environment, but the Elites at the top of the worldwide environmental movement have no concern whatsoever for the environment, they are just socialists who have figured out that the label of "socialist" carries a negative stigma. So now they call themselves "Environmentalists". In order to cover their true plans they have hijacked the environmental movement so as to easier force their "progressive" socialist agenda upon the rest of us who are less willing to have our standards of living lowered by giving up our hard won American lifestyle of Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness...(and to drive the vehicle of our choice, etc, etc, etc.) all in the name of climate change,

Sorry if this becomes considered a "political post'...I am not the one who brought up "government intervention"...good luck to all in 2014!

 

[dieselram94]

Not assuming anything personal...Here is the problem traditionalists, or right wingers, or whatever you want to call us have with Government intervention... Government intervention should only be done in order to protect and encourage certain unalienable rights, such as Life, liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

It is when Government intervenes to restrict these rights that the red flags go up!

Speed limits, sewer laws, and street paving, etc make possible the continuation of these rights. it is not questionable data that makes speed limits necessary. It is not questionable data that makes sewer lines or education necessary. But seriously folks, global climate change, whatever you may call it is based on questionable data and politically biased theories. Should we have our liberties abolished and our finances ruined, our jobs and chosen careers extinguished, all because these scientists have a theory that gets more press time than those other scientists that have a different theory?

Government intervention is good when it promotes good, and bad when it promotes bad...simply put, I admit, but the problem here is some folks have their ideas of good and bad confused. I am convinced that the average believer in "man made" climate change is seriously and respectfully concerned about the environment, but the Elites at the top of the worldwide environmental movement have no concern whatsoever for the environment, they are just socialists who have figured out that the label of "socialist" carries a negative stigma. So now they call themselves "Environmentalists". In order to cover their true plans they have hijacked the environmental movement so as to easier force their "progressive" socialist agenda upon the rest of us who are less willing to have our standards of living lowered by giving up our hard won American lifestyle of Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness...(and to drive the vehicle of our choice, etc, etc, etc.) all in the name of climate change,

Sorry if this becomes considered a "political post'...I am not the one who brought up "government intervention"...good luck to all in 2014!

Well stated!!!!

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[mtau]

Climate is a measure of the average pattern of variation in temperature, humidity, atmospheric pressure, wind, precipitation, atmospheric particle count and other meteorological variables in a given region over long periods of time. Climate is different than weather, in that weather only describes the short-term conditions of these variables in a given region.



You can believe whatever you want to believe. But scientists can't operate on belief systems.

Temperature, humidity, atmospheric pressure, wind, precipitation are all weather. The weather of a region determines the climate of that area. At least that was how it was when I went to school 50 years ago.

 

[BC1969]

I'll take my life liberty and happiness..completely free of big brother..ok? Thanks.

Mike

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Let's keep politics out please..






American by birth, Patriot by choice.

I would rather die standing on my two feet defending our Constitution than live a lifetime on my knees......

 

[xrunndonex]

Good HAARP and become surprised

 

[BC1969]

Bleh. Been onto that project since the early 90's back before they changed one of the words to make it sound less dramatic.
Nope angels certainly don't play that haarp!

Mike