GOLD RUSH ALASKA season 2

[Goodyguy]

On the Discovery Channel Friday, October 28, 2011 at 9PM e/p.

Well folks it wont be long until the drama continues
Here's a sneak preview...

 

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[jeff of pa]

airborne1092

was there an 'after the After show show'
after the 'After show' show ?

I Never watched any of the "after Shows"
I was expecting them to Vote somebody out,
& turn in their Torches.


I hope Friday
they get back to the reason they are all there.

 

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[Goodyguy]

Friday 1/6/2012
Gold Rush
Dead in the Water


Jack Hoffman's precious excavator gets stranded in the creek and requires emergency surgery in the wilderness.
Meanwhile, the crew fine-tunes their wash plant which doubles their efficiency of recovering gold.

Parker does the work of two men until an argument with his mother threatens to shut him down.

 

[tapoutking]

"Dang mom, let me find some gold"

 

[RANGER31]

agreed let the Kid find his gold watching him work his but off reminds me of my son working his but off when were dredging on the salmon river and the payyate river.so with that said lets find some dang gold

 

[Goodyguy]

I think the problem is.... he wants to ditch high school to mine gold.
Mom knows that the gold is not going anywhere, it will still be there after he graduates.

 

[GrayCloud]

Hard work never hurt anybody. I have been watching people do it for years and I feel fine.

 

[Vance in AK]

Oh, and I would love to hook up my trailer and take a long trip to the Yukon. I live in SoCal. The wife would probably be all for it and the kids would have a blast. I may run the idea across her. Anyone ever do the drive?

I know the drive to Alaska is majority gravel "highway" and will destroy a towed trailer!!

I have some experience with the road having traveled it 8 or 10 times (I live in AK).
There is virtulay no gravel left on the AlCan (hasn't been for years), & the Casiar has less than 100 miles (that was several years ago. I hear it has much less now). I have towed travel trailers, drove U-Hauls, drove the family mini van, drove fuel trucks, etc & never even had a flat tire, & only one chipped windshield. Trust me 1000s of tourists drive very expensive motor homes & tow very expensive travel trailers up here every year with no more damage than you would have on any 2 lane highway in the west.
If you have the time get your passports & make the trip (might as well include Alaska). You will never regret it!

 

[tapoutking]

THANKS Vance! Im going to seriously consider it. I have a 22ft travel trailer with dual axels and brand new tires ready for a long haul. I'd be coming from Southern California and would love to go all the way to Alaska. Not sure how much time I would need to make the round trip though.

 

[kuger]

Oh, and I would love to hook up my trailer and take a long trip to the Yukon. I live in SoCal. The wife would probably be all for it and the kids would have a blast. I may run the idea across her. Anyone ever do the drive?

I know the drive to Alaska is majority gravel "highway" and will destroy a towed trailer!!

I have some experience with the road having traveled it 8 or 10 times (I live in AK).
There is virtulay no gravel left on the AlCan (hasn't been for years), & the Casiar has less than 100 miles (that was several years ago. I hear it has much less now). I have towed travel trailers, drove U-Hauls, drove the family mini van, drove fuel trucks, etc & never even had a flat tire, & only one chipped windshield. Trust me 1000s of tourists drive very expensive motor homes & tow very expensive travel trailers up here every year with no more damage than you would have on any 2 lane highway in the west.
If you have the time get your passports & make the trip (might as well include Alaska). You will never regret it!

Thanks Vance,I stand corrected...it was when I went in '95.Tapout I say GO as well!!

 

[airborne1092]

I think Parker would be well served by going to college. I'm the first to say it, colleges in America are nothing more than a business. However, having said that I do believe it's possible to learn something, and Parker is in a unique situation. Most college bound young adults go to college thinking they'll walk right into a mid level management job that pays well. This country is over educated in that regard. However, if Parker were to attend college and earn a degree in Business Management or Geology, it would serve him well. He already has a potential career waiting for him at his grandpa's mine, it'll be an opportunity to put what he learns to good use. The degree certainly wouldn't hurt him, and like Goodyguy said, his mother knows the gold isn't going anywhere...

Just my 2 cents...

 

[russau]

THANKS Vance! Im going to seriously consider it. I have a 22ft travel trailer with dual axels and brand new tires ready for a long haul. I'd be coming from Southern California and would love to go all the way to Alaska. Not sure how much time I would need to make the round trip though.

one way to extend your time in Alaska is to ship your truck/trailer/guns/food to Alaska on a barge and then fly up to meet it.yep itll cost more than driveing it up there but itll maximize your time there and youll have all of your gear/guns!

 

[Vance in AK]

THANKS Vance! Im going to seriously consider it. I have a 22ft travel trailer with dual axels and brand new tires ready for a long haul. I'd be coming from Southern California and would love to go all the way to Alaska. Not sure how much time I would need to make the round trip though.

I've driven from Kenai AK to southern oregon (right at 3k miles)in 3 days but I wouldn't recomend it! Takes all the fun out of it
Realisticaly a month would be great but 3 weeks would work. Just not a whole lot of sight seeing time.
email me if I can help with any particular questions.

 

[kuger]

I feel Parker was not taught the most valuable lesson my grandfather ever bestowed upon me,and that was never get,"The Fever".I have stayed true yet mined my whole life and have seen the effects...often very bad of this ailment

 

[mcscs]

This is getting boring. Find some gold already

 

[Gobpile]

Oh crap! Here comes MSHA, break out the coffee pot thermometer. They smell a couple of dollars here and a chance to make a point on how powerful they are.They are worthless and can easily shut a mine down for any reason.They need to make each episode two hours and less commercials!

 

[bootybay]

Not knowing anything about gold panning or gold digging, I have a question, for those that were grandfathered in by being allowed to have their own cabin or home built on their claim.. what if they decided to sell their claim, would the new owners be allowed to live in the cabin or home built there? Just curious on that one.

 

[Jeffro]

Not knowing anything about gold panning or gold digging, I have a question, for those that were grandfathered in by being allowed to have their own cabin or home built on their claim.. what if they decided to sell their claim, would the new owners be allowed to live in the cabin or home built there? Just curious on that one.

You are allowed to make improvements as long as they are relative to the mining operation. Temporary structures are best, as each state interprets the regs differently. Here in Oregon mobile trailers are preferred, and you can have a "watchman's" cabin set up, as long as it's incident to mining. Grandfathering is slim to none in this area.

One of the worst things to happen to small scale people was back in the 70's you would see scheisters play the 1872 mining laws, file a claim, build a house and sell it as real property. Still going on to this day, minus the houses in most cases.

 

[Klondikeike]

Hey Gobpile...

I hate big brother like MSHA and others as much as you do... HOWEVER... being a commercial miner myself for many years... I have found myself in the position to become MSHA certified.... and actually learned a few things too...

Did you know, that 75 percent of ALL significant serious injuries and deaths are in mines who employ 5 or less people... Once you step up from recreational to commercial.... and commercial can be anything above casual use.....did you know you are required to notify your local MSHA office of your operation and schedule a meeting to examine your mine so they can make suggestions of safety issues that many need correcting...and you'll need to complete a class as a new miner, of either part 49 or part 46, depending if you are above ground or underground operations...they are usually 16 hours class room and 8 hours on site at a working mine...

You know why? because we as miners just want to get at it.. get the gold and will rarely take a close look at small safety issues... the big ones are simple enough to spot....

How do you keep an underground mine, which may be requiring timbering to be safe... when you are asking a 7 inch by 7 inch timber to hold millions of tons of mountain up Seemingly impossible...You learn why and how a timber will do just that when PROPERLY placed and put together as a set with other timbers.... it isn't any different above ground except we become complacent within our natural above aground habitat..and safety goes out the window..and here come the injuries...

The challenge in life isn't correcting a problem AFTER it happens, it IS fixing a problem before it happens...and that is basically all the MSHA is about with small mines and smaller operations.....Teaching them to see the small problems that can cause big injuries...and if you do not listen them.. you are right ...Gobpile... MSHA will shut you down in a quick minute...

I said last on post on here last year, early on they goof balls were going to get a visit from MSHA.... no one else posting saw anything wrong or how unsafe the original mine operation they built, or the way they operated equipment..I did, because I've been there and done that...

When I am not mining I also work in the oil field industry..if you think MSHA is hard on miners..come on over to the oil field industry...

When I used to drive tunnel underground for the yellow metal.. my Workman comp was about 6% for underground miners and about 38% for above ground workers...Why would be above ground be so much more than underground where you would think all the danger would be under ground...actually, when one is underground, they are in an un-natural environment...and being so...they are much..much..much more cautious and safety minded when underground... but above ground..where our natural habitat is.. we take short cut..procrastinate on safety issues, especially those we think are not really important...and before you know it..someone gets hurt... the odds are against you not getting hurt...

What I have found over the years..and I am approaching 40 years in prospecting and mining... just play by the rules...and everything is so much easier.... but that is the not the natural way with many guys and miners , they think they know better than the professionals...you may not like the rules.. but if yo play by them, your bank account will get bigger and bigger as you find more gold....it's no fun being shut down or paying fines over and over...

If you work with MSHA people, you'll find most of them are just like us....pretty good people ....but when you ignore them and their warnings.. they will at times come across as gods with lots of power.. Oh, by the way.. they are a very powerful agency...and they are in fact law enforcement officials...

Just some of my thoughts...based on many years of practical experience...

I wish everyone much success..and above all be safe.. think ahead... sometimes the easiest way may not be the safest way...I have helped too many coroners pull dead dredgers out from under big rocks that fell on them...

Klondike...

 

[kuger]

I seen it coming a long time ago Ike......I remember you saying something and I was shocked they had not already came down on em!!
I also can not get over the Environmental Damage they are showing,sure it isnt that bad to those of us that have logged or mined all there lives but it sure doesnt look good on T.V!Last night I was really cringing!!!Kind of stuff personally I dont like "the untrained eye",seeing

 

[Klondikeike]

Actually Kruger....

I spoke with some MSHA folks in Montana last year when I was looking at a mine up there..it was alreaay MSHA certified and their office was only about 10 miles away...

They told me back then they had developed 179 safety violations from just watching the show...JUST for Todd and his guys....and that the crew was going to receive some love letters from MSHA over the winter...I was thinking they were going to make one show just all about MSHA and all the changes they would have to be done to be in comliance...(which aybe the reason they claim got sold....so Fred could rip out all the non compliance stuff and clear up the many non-compliance issues with the mine...) ..I coulod be wrong, but it makes sense to me....for the most part, the crew took loosing the mine a little too easy for me...

You see, if you register your mine with MSHA.. they will inspect it for free.. tell you in writtng what needs to be done or changed or modified to be in compliance....if you do these these suggestions...everyone is happy... but when you mine without registering your mine....MSHA folks get a little heated and forceful about your safety...

Beside safety issues.. there is a lot of really mundaine stuff and paperwork to chock a goat....

Example... EVERY chemical you store must ave a MSDS sheet(Manufacturer Safety Data Sheet) on file....and the strorage unit or container must have the appropreate symbols and proper numbering system clearly marked so first responders to a fire for instance, will know what is stored there...

And on it goes... but once you are in comliance.... it's actually rather easy to keep it that way....

We'll see how much they show of the MSHA intervention next week....

I have attached a pic of the book MSHA gives you establishing ALL the safety guidelines you are to follow....it is rather an impressive size...

The first one shows you the cover.. the second one shows you all the different catigories pertaining to safety for above ground minng (Placer Mines)...if you should have both placer and lode mining going on at the same time... you get to use 2 books...

Good luck to everyone...be safe and get lots of gold....


Klondike