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Evolution

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I have a few vacation days so I figured I'd try to get another hunt in today. I decided to try a secondary field near where i found the two Vermont coppers last year. I didn't do too well but I did turn up a few interesting things. I seem to have an affinity for finding broken crotal bells. I've found four now and they're all broken. I found some kind of tag. It has the #11 on one side and the letter B on the other. It's about the size of a quarter. I'm assuming maybe it has something to do with cattle. The star shaped token thing rang up like a large cent (mid 80's on the DFX) I cant read all of the writing on it. Has anyone ever seen one of these before?
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I found this interesting item too. It's a solid piece of lead. I think it may have been hammered out of a musket ball into the shape of a button.
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I also found this 2 ring bullet. I know Civil War era bullets had three rings. Does anyone know the age of this bullet?
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Here is a closer picture of the star shaped token.
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Captn_SE said:
Rob,

That's some assortment of relics you have found there. :thumbsup: I like the heel plate and your broken Crotal bell. Haven't a clue about your star shaped token. I see a lot of writing around the edge of it, but can't make it out in your pic.

Hope you strike a Coppa on your next hunt!!

HH,
CAPTN SE
Dan
I have actually seen tokens like that before. I think the Franklin Institute used to issue them as mementos when you went there. They would actually put your name on them. But this one looks different, and the ones from the Franklin institute didn't have a hole in the center. I'm pretty sure its not the same thing due to where it was found but you never know. You can't really make any of the writing out around the edge other than the word "state" and what appear to be the numbers 07.

By the way Dan, I'm not sure if you saw my Sunday post. I had a little luck!! ;D Here's a link.
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,150975.0.html
 
Man what a day for you!
Love reading your posts just to see the finds you come up with!
Keep digging and I will keep reading!
Congrads on a great day!
Chris & LeeAnn
 
Denver Nuggets said:
Man what a day for you!
Love reading your posts just to see the finds you come up with!
Keep digging and I will keep reading!
Congrads on a great day!
Chris & LeeAnn
Thanks for the response and I'm glad you enjoy reading my posts. I'm no KirkPa but I try to keep it entertaining. I like to try to make everyone feel like they were there with me.
 
Evolution said:
BuckleBoy said:
Nice Finds!


Not all CW bullets had three rings.  The bullet looks a little big for a revolver bullet, but it is certainly CW-Era.  The croatal bell looks like it has the letter "N" on it.  Are you sure it doesn't have initials on it near the bottom.  It could have a maker's mark on it which would enable you to date it more precisely.  The heel plate is excellent.  My last one had a star cut-out. 


Regards,


Buckleboy
Thanks for the response BB.  All I can make out is an "N" on the bottom.  The one I found Sunday has a little more writing on it.  (Bottom pic)

Thanks for the photos.  The bottom croatal bell is from the 1700's--possibly from the foundry of Robert Wells (British) 1755-1798.  See figure 20 at the website below.  It could also be from any of the makers listed on that page that have a "W" in their mark--although it is strikingly similar to fig.20.  I don't know the "N" mark--probably one half of a name, and hence undateable...but it is still likely Colonial Era with a maker's mark like that.  The only ones I've found are mid-1800's bells, and they usually don't have maker's marks but rather just a number on the bottom of them.

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/pages/crotal-bells.html#Anchor-Maker-53390

Regards,


Buckleboy
 
BuckleBoy said:
Evolution said:
BuckleBoy said:
Nice Finds!


Not all CW bullets had three rings. The bullet looks a little big for a revolver bullet, but it is certainly CW-Era. The croatal bell looks like it has the letter "N" on it. Are you sure it doesn't have initials on it near the bottom. It could have a maker's mark on it which would enable you to date it more precisely. The heel plate is excellent. My last one had a star cut-out.


Regards,


Buckleboy
Thanks for the response BB. All I can make out is an "N" on the bottom. The one I found Sunday has a little more writing on it. (Bottom pic)

Thanks for the photos. The bottom croatal bell is from the 1700's--possibly from the foundry of Robert Wells (British) 1755-1798. See figure 20 at the website below. It could also be from any of the makers listed on that page that have a "W" in their mark--although it is strikingly similar to fig.20. I don't know the "N" mark--probably one half of a name, and hence undateable...but it is still likely Colonial Era with a maker's mark like that. The only ones I've found are mid-1800's bells, and they usually don't have maker's marks but rather just a number on the bottom of them.

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/pages/crotal-bells.html#Anchor-Maker-53390

Regards,


Buckleboy
Thanks again for all of the information BB. I appreciate it. I love the 1700's relics.
 

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