Halberd - new England find dug CT

bradyboy

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Hey guys
Is been some time since ive submitted an item for ID
A buddy came to me with this item, a Halberd
it was dug up on a construction site in the 70s
it was completely rusted out.
It was passed on to my buddy who soaked in for months in viniger and something else
it was found in the area of portchester NY, Greenwich ct, - Long Island NY area
It was found very deep
This item looks like it may have silver guiding, when i look in the cracks of the joints, I see bright silver
Im rusty at posting, hope the pictures will post
Brady
 

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Let me add, I have a lot of photos of this thing, I was afraid it might overload the down load process to post
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Looks like Viking thing !!!!
 
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Call or email Christies of New York ask for the weapons dept tell them what you have and send pictures
 
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You see those with suits of armor.Might have been one of those.
 
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Looks like it may have been gilded in silver
In the deep cracks I see bright silver, using a loop
did they use these as weapons in Connecticut - very important
the tip is snapped off curled and the spear is slightly bent, as though it had been used as a weapon
Cant figure out if its Spanish, French , English or American made
Really need some help on this guys
Thanks so much for your time
Brady Boy

 
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sorry deleted the other post, the format would not let me fix it
anyway was the wrong link and info,trying again. here is a link
to one that looks not exactly like yours real close made in the
usa more info @link

Descriptor: AMERICAN HALBERD, HEAD
Material: IRON
Place of Manufacture: USA
Use Date: 1775 CIRCA 1780
Manufacture Date: 1775-1780
Museum Collections, U.S. National Park Service -

more blades
Museum Collections, U.S. National Park Service -

just noticed this one has initials / marks

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Sudanese 19th Century Battleaxe?

Sudannese 19th Century Sword.jpg

Your find appears to be in wrought iron and a lot heavier.
 
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trying to figure why a this would be dug deep in the NY , new England area, along the shore line
its not ornate to be used for the use of sergeants of arms, in my opinion
also clearly looks like it has seen service, the tip is broken off and a bit bent over and the sword looks like it has a slight bend to it
again, why would this be found in new England
Brady
 
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It looks ornamental to me, possibly a fence or weather vein topper.
 
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"The Four Feathers" by A. E. W. Mason

trying to figure why a this would be dug deep in the NY , new England area, along the shore line
its not ornate to be used for the use of sergeants of arms, in my opinion
also clearly looks like it has seen service, the tip is broken off and a bit bent over and the sword looks like it has a slight bend to it
again, why would this be found in new England
Brady

Mahidist Revolt.jpg
I believe what you have is a Sudanese "War Hammer" used in the Mahdist War and possibly brought back to New England by a British Soldier.

The Mahdist War (1881—99) was a British colonial war of the late 19th century, which was fought between the Mahdist Sudanese of the religious leader Muhammad Ahmad bin Abd Allah, who had proclaimed himself the "Mahdi" of Islam (the “Guided One”), and the forces of the Khedivate of Egypt, initially, and later the forces of Britain. From 18 years of colonial war resulted the joint-rule state of the Anglo-Egyptian Sudan (1899—1956), a condominium of the British Empire and the Kingdom of Egypt.
 
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I think Terry is close, ornamental. My idea is a stage prop or a standard from a fraternal organization. It looks plated which would make it fairly modern and decorative, and the pick/axe part looks inserted into the spear part. All the real ones I have seen were not made like this and a real one would not have an axe that would wiggle around like the one shown. These have also been made to go with replica armor suits and as wall ornaments.
 
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I'm going with 19th C repro
 
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A lot of lodges used stuff like that, they were nuts over getting their hands on actual weapons of war, which may explain why it was found where it was.
 
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I think being that it was silver plated tells the story of something ornamental. May be a very cool fraternal organization item.
 
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