🔎 UNIDENTIFIED Help ID'ing Colonial-era copper

[igloo777]

Hello. Can anyone help ID this coin? It was recovered from a pre-Colonial to Colonial era site. Approximately the size of a nickel (perhaps a bit smaller). The reverse is worn smooth.

It looks fairly similar to this coin--https://www.etsy.com/listing/1054383738/super-george-1st-1722-half-penny--but the outline doesn't match exactly.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

 

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[cw0909]

I looked at the link & thought this was close, just cant see enough detail on yours
so probably not yours

I. Struck Imitation Halfpence​

https://coins.nd.edu/colcoin/ColCoinImages/Machin/Vlack14-84A.obv.jpg

Unattributed Imitation British Halfpence

From Coins of Colonial and Early America, an exhibit of over 250 items from Massachusetts silver to the provisional half disme of 1792. Features high-resolution images and detailed descriptions.

coins.nd.edu

more here , maybe you can find it

COLONIAL COINS - Section Contents

From Coins of Colonial and Early America, an exhibit of over 250 items from Massachusetts silver to the provisional half disme of 1792. Features high-resolution images and detailed descriptions.

coins.nd.edu

 

[l.cutler]

Definitely not a counterfeit British halfpenny. It looks French to me, something like this, but not exact.

 

[igloo777]

Appreciate the info so far. Still looking for an exact match.

 

[l.cutler]

I would look into other European coins, possibly Prussian as well. There is enough detail that it should be able to be identified.

 

[igloo777]

Similar to a "Poland 3 grosze 1766-1794" but slight differences, I think.

 

[l.cutler]

Similar to a "Poland 3 grosze 1766-1794" but slight differences, I think.

That is close, you may be on the right track. May be a different year or ruler. It's going to be European for sure!

 

[CRUSADER]

You can't exclude any British coins from your possible IDs.

 

[Iron Patch]

You're on the right track. It's either a Woods Hibernia Farthing (21.4mm) or Rosa American Halfpenny. (22mm) You can see the faint lettering on your coin that matches up... Gratia Rex. There's different varieties and with the wear, subtle differences wouldn't be a surprise. Obviously comparing to a Woods Hibernia Halfpenny which is much bigger you're definitely going to see a difference. The Farthings are much less common to dig.

 

[l.cutler]

I have to respectfully disagree on the Rosa Americana or Hibernia coins. I collect both series and this is not one. I have spent hundreds of hours pouring over these coins to ID the die varieties. On all the Woods coins, the bust has a concave curve at the bottom, this coin has a convex curve. The hair shape is different as well.

 

[Iron Patch]

Interesting, but at least I'm not proved wrong until someone can ID it! I guess if I can do it that should be good for a break even right?

 

[l.cutler]

Absolutely!

 

[igloo777]

Still looking for an ID! I appreciate the info so far but I don't think we've solved it.

 

[igloo777]

Its diameter is 14.51 mm in it's current, worn condition, if that helps.

 

[Mackaydon]

1 Liard - Louis XV, France

Detailed information about the coin 1 Liard, Louis XV, France, with pictures and collection and swap management: mintage, descriptions, metal, weight, size, value and other numismatic data

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Don..

PS: Ooops, I ID-ed the wrong coin.
PPS: Merry Christmas to y'all.

 

[Red-Coat]

1 Liard - Louis XV, France

Detailed information about the coin 1 Liard, Louis XV, France, with pictures and collection and swap management: mintage, descriptions, metal, weight, size, value and other numismatic data

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Don..

The one liard was 21mm, whereas the coin in question is 14.5mm.

I don't know what it is but have been looking for match among the many variants of Polish/Lituanian copper 'shillings' (popularly called the 'Boratynka') from the 1600s. Typically 15mm diameter.

Boratynka - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[igloo777]

From a local coin dealer who was shown the coin. The weight is 5.7g.

It's a weight for a gold Pistole of Louis XIV, possibly modified for use as a weight for a Portuguese gold Half Moidore. Weights of this period were privately produced so minor variations in portraiture/legend/etc are to be expected. If the weight is 5.xx it's going to be quite close to the later, and would also explain the blank reverse.