Help Please

[ParkHunter61]

I have a new Silver Umax .
This is my first Tesoro but not my
first detector......
I have about 15 hrs on it so far
and I keep doing air tests and
I'm disappointed.
I want to know if my unit needs to be fixed.
Help.
With stock brown coil it gets 8'' in air test
with sens at 10 and in all metal..
With 10x12 coil it gets 1'' more with
same settings..
Do I need to send it back?
Bill

 

[ParkHunter61]

I tried calling Tesoro at this number
1-928-771-2646 and it seems to be
disconnected or something.
Does anyone have another number .
I emailed Tesoro like two weeks ago and have not
gotten a reply.
thanks
Bill

 

[DD-777]

Just called Tel: 928-771-2646 - woman answered "Tesoro Electronics". You might want to try again. I wouldn't worry so much about air tests - they don't mean squat compared to how that machine performs on the ground. Give 'em a call though - see what they say and keep us posted...

 

[ParkHunter61]

Yea it was my land line .
I just got through on my cell
and I'm waiting for a call back.
The lady who answered was very nice.
Thanks 777
Bill

 

[wildrider]

Tesoro Electronics has some awfully nice folks that own and operate theplace.
AND a very outstanding warranty program.

 

[DD-777]

 

[ParkHunter61]

Well I talked to a tech at Tesoro and
he said getting 9'' in a air test (10x12 coil)
with sens at 10 in all metal was
normal - I'm pretty disappointed
from what I've read on this site..
I guess I shouldn't believe what I read.
Another person posted he was getting 11 1/4 ''
with stock coil with these settings..
Thinking of going back to Whites..
Since coming to this site I have
lost confidence in my ability's and
my equipment..
maybe I was better off being blissfully ignorant.
Bill

 

[wildrider]

Well I talked to a tech at Tesoro and
he said getting 9'' in a air test (10x12 coil)
with sens at 10 in all metal was
normal - I'm pretty disappointed
from what I've read on this site..
I guess I shouldn't believe what I read.
Another person posted he was getting 11 1/4 ''
with stock coil with these settings..
Thinking of going back to Whites..
Since coming to this site I have
lost confidence in my ability's and
my equipment..
maybe I was better off being blissfully --deleted--.
Bill

I wouldn't get too disillusioned.

You didn't say what you were air testing.
Care to elaborate? If it were a BB, I think it would have problems at about 4 inches.

Keep in mind that most detectors are designed to find penny/dime sized targets at 4-6 inches. Objects vary in the ground and obviously larger targets and more conductive targets are going to allow deeper signals. I wouldn't get too sad about it.

And you didn't pick up a very high priced detector to begin with. Not to say that high priced detectors find things deeper either.

Try it outside on things in the ground, you might be surprised.

 

[ParkHunter61]

It was a new shinny US quarter....

 

[DD-777]

Bill, I'm sorry that you feel the way you do. I will say this, my last detector, while not a high-dollar machine, was a "TID" machine. I became very used to looking at the screen every time I got a signal. When I took my Tesoro out for the first time, I wanted to throw it off a cliff onto a busy highway . I was extremely frustrated and felt completely incapable of working with it. After much reading and lots of practice, I'm slowly getting the hang of my machine. Do I still glance at the control box looking for a depth reading? Yup. While I do miss it, I'm noticing that the more I swing, the more "in tune" I am becoming with the way it works and the less I need to worry about a screen. I too, was once blinded by the "swag" of the high dollar machines (still am sometimes), but have made enough great finds in the short while I have owned a Tesoro product to know I'll most likely never look back. There are many here that swear by their "Silvers" - all with good reason. Just takes time - especially after using something else for a long period of time. I hope you are able to get it figured out and also that you stay with us here on T'net.

 

[ParkHunter61]

Thanks DD 777.
I do really like this site.
I'm having no problems with the detector.
It works well and is easy to use .
It's just from what I read - it would get more depth.
Somebody must have a Silver Umax and has done air tests
with it.
I just want to know if there getting the same results as me..
If someone says there getting 3 more inches in depth
than me - that worries me...... The tech at Tesoro
tells me that 9'' on air test with max sens in all metal
with a 10x12 coil on a quarter is the
normal depth - this makes me confused when someone else
is getting 11'' with stock coil with same settings.
Bill

 

[DD-777]

I've never been one for air tests. The soil here in N.C. is so ridiculous that it doesn't even matter. I can go hunt a large site (an old homestead with farm for example) and have to adjust my ground balance two or three times. I could say that I have dug large targets (bigger than a quarter but smaller than a broken plow blade) from around ten inches with the stock 8 inch coil - the deepest I've pulled a coin was a Barber quarter at seven. There are so many variables involved that you really can't judge anything without getting out and doing it. You might want to PM Modern Miner - he's fanatical about his Silver and I know for fact that he's pulled some very deep targets with his.

 

[SaginawIan]

It's working good! Nothing wrong with the detector - your airtests are very close to the exact tests that I've run many times on my Silver Umax with both the 8" and the 10x12". Those are very good results for an air test. Are you concerned about the 1" more depth with the 10x12"? Get that to the soil and you will do better on buried coins. Heck, 8" in the soil on a dime would be fabulous! In general depth that equals or surpasses the diameter of the coil you are using is tremendous - 8" with an 8" coil is perfect. If you look on the michigan board I posted some airtests of my detectors and you will see that some very expensive detectors got about the same depth in an airtest. Hang in there, you will see - run that baby at 10+ with disc below foil - and you will find some nice things.

Ian

 

[Steve in Cali.]

I have about 15 hrs on it so far
and I keep doing air tests...

That's the first problem. Forget about air testing. It's meaningless.

What counts is how it works on targets in the ground. Keep on using it in real world conditions. Test it by looking for real stuff that's buried in the ground. Waving coins at it in the air is kinda silly if ya think about it.

My Cibola didn't air test like other guys said theirs did. Yeah I tried it but I'm not interested in using it to find flying quarters. I want the stuff that's buried in the ground and it finds plenty of that at good depth.

What the heck man. You have a lifetime warranty on the machine. Use it and learn it while doing actual detecting. You can send it in anytime for a checkup and if it's not right Tesoro will fix it or replace it.

Make sure you're using a good battery too. Don't use cheapo or worn out batteries. Spend a few extra dimes and get a good battery.

I hope to see a post from you in a while where you took the machine out and really worked it and found some good deep targets in the ground.

 

[ParkHunter61]

Thanks everyone for your advice.
Does anyone know were to
get a pair of Sandman's Lucky Socks.
Be great to get a set of those...
HH everyone
Bill

 

[Sandman]

Sandman's Lucky Socks I hadn't ever thought of selling mine. You can make your own Lucky Socks by just wearing the same pair of white "bus driver's socks" till they turn green. Those are your lucky socks as you have found more stuff while wearing those than any other colors. If I sold you mind, I'd need to break in another pair.........

Don't worry to much about the depth you read of others reporting. For one thing the ground could be different, different coils are used, the coin could have had a Halo, or the exact depth could have been exaggerated due to enthusiasm. In the mean time check that there is no dirt between your coil cover and the coil. You are using a nylon coil bolt and the cable is not flopping around.

Good Luck,
Sandman

 

[ParkHunter61]

Thanks Sandman on the info on
the socks - going to get right on that..
Bill

 

[ParkHunter61]

Dug a plug today at my apartment, I
put a new quarter 6 1/2'' down and replaced
the plug very gently.
Using stock coil I got a good signal and
I had to lift the coil about 2'' before losing the signal...
I was very pleased with that ..
Bill

 

[DD-777]

Dug a plug today at my apartment, I
put a new quarter 6 1/2'' down and replaced
the plug very gently.
Using stock coil I got a good signal and
I had to lift the coil about 2'' before losing the signal...
I was very pleased with that ..
Bill

Right on brother...

 

[metalmolly]

Guys are always worried about the number of inches whereas gals know what counts is not how many inches, but what you do with the inches you've got. Seriously, the folks who are really good at this always say that depth is not as important as other features. Depth with Tesoros is good if not great and a Tesoro will put most other models to shame when it comes to the really important stuff like target separation and masking. That's why if you are hunting a site that has an average amount of trash or higher the smaller coil will find you more good stuff than the stock coil even though you will lose a little bit of depth. And if I didn't see it I wouldn't be too quick to believe it when somebody talks about that amazingly deep coin they dug.