When I left Todd jumped into my hole I was dredging in. Remember at the first of this new post I made mention of a development? Well according to Buddy They both dropped down to my hole and supposedly pulled 6 ounces from my tailing. I call bull crap on that. I tested my tailing every few days and would only find a spec here or there. I know at first I was losing gold...before I went, I moved the middle tower on my dredge 12" forward but was running the sluice the same way...it was way to steep. I tried to get them to read a doc on the gold hog mats in order to help me dial them in but they wouldn't. They would say, if I'm not catching all the black sands then I'm losing gold. I would counter with the mats are designed to exchange material but they are to close minded to listen...
THEM BLACK SAND IN THAT RIVER STAYS WITH THE GOLD! SO THE EXCHANGE WOULD CAUSE GOLD TO BE LOST IN THE EXCHANGE JUST LIKE WE EXPLAINED TO YOU!
OKAY NOW any of you dredgers know that you don't go to a claim and just punch holes and hope to get lucky, ( THATS CALLED POKE AND HOPE ROY ) you need to figure out what a river is doing. any one that knows the middle fork of the Boise river knows that there is great gold there. Well me and my partner pulled 6 oz. on a new river that we did not know very much about. 2 and 1/2 oz came out of Roy's tailings 3 and 1/2 came out of a hole just up stream from the 3 holes that Roy dredged. NOT 6 oz out of his tailings. but on the 30% deal was to help Roy stay out of jail or getting shot on privet land with out permission ! so now on the river everything started out like Roy explained in his story then a few weeks into the camp Roy started to act a little funny with the way he was doing things. then i asked every one to classify to 1/2 in. and bring back to camp that did not go well with Roy then cons where getting left and not taking care of then them cons would go back to the river with Roy with out me knowing what was really in them. so then i asked for every one to write down there daily weights that did not go as well ether with Roy. so his clean ups went from day to day to every 3 days . then he had taking my truck to the valley to get supply's. he had some problems with the truck and called my wife to help him outwith the truck and pull him off the road. Well he started to bad mouth Me to my wife and father. That was not a good thing when i found out. So when the season has come to a end for Roy when his air compressor busted . he was getting his stuff loaded up at the dredge site as i passed he was dumping out a bucket that had solid black sands in it not a lot but that's
? marks in a persons head. (so that gives a person a
thought that he was high grading) and that i did not see all of the gold that he really pulled out! and about the contraband that he was sweating the boys off for going home will not be in my camp or on my claims.
So that means that he will not be on my claims ever again .
there is lots more but it will work itself out in time.
I wasn't even goling to respond to this but the more I thought about it, the more I feel I need to.
You say I was acting funny, well thats your doing Buddy.
First you tell me, I'm not your Boss, we are partners, but then after a week or so of dredging you tell me that I have to clean up how you want. You tell me I HAVE to run through your highbanker then finish how you want me to. I have a system on my clean ups ie: I classify at the river...#18,#20 and #30 mesh. I then bring back those cons to camp and run through my cleanup sluice. It works for me as it's fast and I have a almost perfect recovery rate. Running gold hog mats, I would do 2 or 3 clean outs a day and have around 1 gallon of cons. Doing the cleanups like YOU wanted Buddy cost me a extra hour. That day you came back to camp while I was doing my cleanup and you grabbed my cons and started messing with them was wrong. Even though it's your claim, you dont just grab someones cons and start messing with them. I left camp pissed off and whent to chill out. You finally came to were I was and we talked about it and you was OK with me proccessing my cons every 3 days, but now your bring into question my HONESTY and INTEGERTY? Really? Should I post your dirty laundry for the world to read? I have never treated you or anyone for that matter with the utmost honesty.
Also what was playing into me acting "funny" acording to you was that you and Todd was in a 50/50 deal. Todd was dredging his ass off while you was doing god knows what. He was doing his part in your partnership while you wasn't. How many days did you dredge compared to him? If you were partners with him also then why could he not do anything without your ok? He was in a non-productive hole for how many weeks only to get close to the bottom to only uncover bus sized boulders that we could not move? He wanted to move weeks before you finally let him. How is that not a boss/employee relationship.
The bucket that I was dumping out was the crap thap that came out of the Jig accross the river that I grabbed the steel balls from. It had nothing in but rusted balls and dirt/black sand. You remember we tried to clean them up in order to use them to crush the cons to release what ever gold they held.
I also find it funny that when I called you a month ago, you told me that you guys pulled 6 oz out of my tailing. Your exact words when I called to find out how the hole I was dredging paid off for Todd, " We didn't need to finish your hole, your tailings yeilded 6oz."
Buddy I am not some uneducated bloke off the street when it comes to dredging. I know you dont just punch holes. Theres a reason Todd moved to my hole, that because it was paying better then the half dozen holes you two punched, combined. The reason I did not finish was well, my compressor. But you know what? IMO you are the one that broke my rod. Remember when I was taking the pully off and you came over to help. I said just lightly tap on the punch, yet you smacked it hard. I felt the ping of the rod breaking while I was holding to body. I didn't say anyhthing because you were my friend and friendship is more important then stuff but I guess it may not be so with you.
One final thing, I NEVER did bad mouth you to your wife like your saying. This was right after I left camp pissed becauise you came and grabbed my cons.
Remember we had that talk that night about how you wanted me to clean up, you said it was so it was to be fair to Todd who would have 6 gallons a day verses my 1 gallon. It was not because you didnt trust me. The only thing I said to your wife was how ironic it was that you told me when I got there that you wasn't my boss but a partner, YET Todd or I could not do anything with out your permission. I said you would not let me clean up how it worked the best for me and that you would not let Todd move.
Guys, like I said in the begining of this post, I wasn't going to even respond to this but my Honesty and Integerty was being called into question and that alone is one thing a guy has that he can be proud of.
Buddy, I'm sorry that it has came to this over a f'n forum. I finally found a job and just started working again and if it's such a big deal to you then I will send you the 70% of the money from my gold sales when I was there.
I want this issue resolved between us as I'm going to try to come back to Idaho the first part of December to clean out both my storage units and to get the 9mm, shot gun, gazebo top, tubs, face mask w/requlator any anthing else that I left there for you guys to use. I just dont want any problems, the guns are important to me as they were my dads.
