Large cent and Navy button???

[Merf]

Gates and I hunted a Civil War era field site today and these two finds puzzle me.
Why does the Large cent have cut marks on both sides?
And any ID help on the pewter button is appreciated.
TIA==Merf

 

[DirtyMike]

Is the button for sure pewter. Cause it looks like it was a lid and that the spot on the rim on the back may have been hinged. And for the large cent, these things pop up sort of often. Carved, engraved, & counter stamped coins are cool. Who know who or why they carved into your coin, but I think it gives it personality. Cool finds by the way!

 

[Merf]

Is the button for sure pewter. Cause it looks like it was a lid and that the spot on the rim on the back may have been hinged. And for the large cent, these things pop up sort of often. Carved, engraved, & counter stamped coins are cool. Who know who or why they carved into your coin, but I think it gives it personality. Cool finds by the way!

Thanks Mike -----The Navy thing is thick and Heavy----Pretty sure it is pewter but I could be wrong.

 

[Iron Patch]

Is the button for sure pewter. Cause it looks like it was a lid and that the spot on the rim on the back may have been hinged. And for the large cent, these things pop up sort of often. Carved, engraved, & counter stamped coins are cool. Who know who or why they carved into your coin, but I think it gives it personality. Cool finds by the way!

Thanks Mike -----The Navy thing is thick and Heavy----Pretty sure it is pewter but I could be wrong.

Not pewter.. copper or brass most likely. Notice it has some of the same orange color as the large cent.

 

[kuger]

Dang Merf!Your piece with the anchor is the center portion of a cast brass tongue,from a tongue and wreath buckle!I happen to have one,dug in Australia,and have not been able to find any info on it.I will post a pic of mine tonight.

 

[Merf]

Dang Merf!Your piece with the anchor is the center portion of a cast brass tongue,from a tongue and wreath buckle!I happen to have one,dug in Australia,and have not been able to find any info on it.I will post a pic of mine tonight.

Thanks Kuger

 

[Iron Patch]

Dang Merf!Your piece with the anchor is the center portion of a cast brass tongue,from a tongue and wreath buckle!I happen to have one,dug in Australia,and have not been able to find any info on it.I will post a pic of mine tonight.

There's 2 piece buttons that are very close in design.

 

[kuger]

Dang Merf!Your piece with the anchor is the center portion of a cast brass tongue,from a tongue and wreath buckle!I happen to have one,dug in Australia,and have not been able to find any info on it.I will post a pic of mine tonight.

There's 2 piece buttons that are very close in design.

Right I.P,but this one isnt a button,the first clue was the part on the rim where the bridge broke from the belt loop,and second I have the exact tongue.He already realized he the belt loop.

 

[Iron Patch]

Dang Merf!Your piece with the anchor is the center portion of a cast brass tongue,from a tongue and wreath buckle!I happen to have one,dug in Australia,and have not been able to find any info on it.I will post a pic of mine tonight.

There's 2 piece buttons that are very close in design.

Right I.P,but this one isnt a button,the first clue was the part on the rim where the bridge broke from the belt loop,and second I have the exact tongue.He already realized he the belt loop.

I know, I'm not saying it is. I'm talking about matching it up to a button to ID. I probably have one here ... what it reminds me of anyway. They are very common in the UK.

 

[kuger]

Dang Merf!Your piece with the anchor is the center portion of a cast brass tongue,from a tongue and wreath buckle!I happen to have one,dug in Australia,and have not been able to find any info on it.I will post a pic of mine tonight.

There's 2 piece buttons that are very close in design.

Right I.P,but this one isnt a button,the first clue was the part on the rim where the bridge broke from the belt loop,and second I have the exact tongue.He already realized he the belt loop.

I know, I'm not saying it is. I'm talking about matching it up to a button to ID. I probably have one here ... what it reminds me of anyway. They are very common in the UK.

O.K. I.P. again I misunderstood ya.I wish you could find something on them as I said I have not been able to find much.My buddy has a complete one,and he knows of two other tongues,besides of mine.Here is his and mine,which I notice is a little different than Merfs

 

[Iron Patch]

Dang Merf!Your piece with the anchor is the center portion of a cast brass tongue,from a tongue and wreath buckle!I happen to have one,dug in Australia,and have not been able to find any info on it.I will post a pic of mine tonight.

There's 2 piece buttons that are very close in design.

Right I.P,but this one isnt a button,the first clue was the part on the rim where the bridge broke from the belt loop,and second I have the exact tongue.He already realized he the belt loop.

I know, I'm not saying it is. I'm talking about matching it up to a button to ID. I probably have one here ... what it reminds me of anyway. They are very common in the UK.

O.K. I.P. again I misunderstood ya.I wish you could find something on them as I said I have not been able to find much.My buddy has a complete one,and he knows of two other tongues,besides of mine.Here is his and mine,which I notice is a little different than Merfs

Reading my post I can see how you thought that.

They are interesting and I will keep it in mind, and mention it to anyone I happen to talk to who I think might now.

 

[Iron Patch]

Here's the button it reminds me of.

 

[kuger]

Man,thats a dead ringer for mine,what do ya know about that button??

 

[Iron Patch]

Man,thats a dead ringer for mine,what do ya know about that button??

It's not one I have here, but the site I got it says Navy button, but I have seen mistakes there before. That said, I'm pretty sure it's common so fairly modern British Royal Navy would make sense. Even though it's very close I'm still not sure we can say they are connected, but might as well start somewhere.

 

[kuger]

British makes sense as mine came from Australia,but as stated before,all and mine included came from gold fields that were only active during the 1850's......what do you mean by "modern"

 

[Iron Patch]

British makes sense as mine came from Australia,but as stated before,all and mine included came from gold fields that were only active during the 1850's......what do you mean by "modern"

I thought of those buttons as maybe a little over a 100 years old. I wonder if maybe something like merchant navy which might explain why they seemed to travel. Any idea if British Navy ships ever took supplies to your area?

 

[kuger]

People from all over the world rushed to the gold fields,and it is not uncommon to find Navy oriented buttons and buckles.

 

[vayank54]

I like the piece of buckle.
IP & Kuger. I had a Navy button, like the one pictured, with a Treble Gilt backmark which would put it early to mid 1800's. Mine was nondug and I sold it on ebay.

 

[kuger]

I like the piece of buckle.
IP & Kuger. I had a Navy button, like the one pictured, with a Treble Gilt backmark which would put it early to mid 1800's. Mine was nondug and I sold it on ebay.

Thanks "V",that kind of confirms my suspicion.There is so many variants of that darn anchor and the design was used for so many years!!

 

[Iron Patch]

I like the piece of buckle.
IP & Kuger. I had a Navy button, like the one pictured, with a Treble Gilt backmark which would put it early to mid 1800's. Mine was nondug and I sold it on ebay.

I'd have to see that one because it doesn't ring a bell and I have a lot of experience with dug British anchor buttons. Your post did make me think of another similar one that seems early, and never has a backmark, but I question if it is Navy.

Being there is so many types is why I don't get confident even it what seems like a good match. Heck, I don't think the anchor on the boys brigade buckle is real far off.