Large copper today.....Hard Times token (Thanks for the ID Don)

[Evolution]

Got out for a little while today. I was hunting in a farmers field finding mostly junk when I was startled by a nice 87 VDI quarter hit on my DFX. When using the tone ID on the DFX this is a very sweet sound. Sounds kind of like a slot machine hitting the jackpot. I was definitely thinking large copper coin before I dug the plug. It was pinpointing at 2.5 inches. One small shovel full and the target was out of the ground. My large copper prediction was correct but I'm kind of stumped as to the ID. I was thinking US large cent at first due to the denticles around the edge of the coin and the lettering but upon closer examination the lettering is wrong. On the left in this picture there is a word that appears to end in "ED" which I though was the word "united" at first.....but it is followed by a word that begins with either a capital I or a T. Also there doesn't appear to be a bust on this coin. There is some kind of design in the middle but its hard to make out. I'm including pictures of the coin in two different kinds of lighting in the post. I couldn't make out any detail on the other side of the coin but its soaking in the peroxide now and I hope to be able to see more detail when it's finished. Any ideas anyone?

 

[JasonB]

Re: Large copper today.....Need help with ID.

It looks to have some detail but the crust has it obscured. Let's see a post-soak pic when you get a chance. Looks like a nice find.

Jason

 

[Don in SJ]

Re: Large copper today.....Need help with ID.

One possibility, and I have to dig my example out to compare is a 1835 Hard Times Token Walsh's General Store, I think the side with a plow says something like SPEED THE PLOUGH IT FEEDS ALL,, see if those words fit......... I believe that is the wording on that type of token

Don

 

[JasonB]

Re: Large copper today.....Need help with ID.

Here's a pic:

http://www.shawneecoin.com/library/ht216.html

I think you nailed it. I can see the "d s" at the bottom.

Jason

 

[JasonB]

Re: Large copper today.....Need help with ID.

pic. no link.

 

[PBK]

Re: Large copper today.....Need help with ID.

Outstanding call, Don! Nice work on the follow-up, too, Jason!

 

[Evolution]

Re: Large copper today.....Need help with ID.

One possibility, and I have to dig my example out to compare is a 1835 Hard Times Token Walsh's General Store, I think the side with a plow says something like SPEED THE PLOUGH IT FEEDS ALL,, see if those words fit......... I believe that is the wording on that type of token

Don

I was just telling my friend Chris that one of you guys would ID it for me. My money was on you Don and you didn't disappoint. Thanks for the ID. I can definitely see it.

 

[Don in SJ]

Re: Large copper today.....Need help with ID.

One possibility, and I have to dig my example out to compare is a 1835 Hard Times Token Walsh's General Store, I think the side with a plow says something like SPEED THE PLOUGH IT FEEDS ALL,, see if those words fit......... I believe that is the wording on that type of token

Don

I was just telling my friend Chris that one of you guys would ID it for me. My money was on you Don and you didn't disappoint. Thanks for the ID. I can definitely see it.

As soon as I saw what looked like a plow, it reminded me of that day back in the 80's when I found mine, I thought for sure I had another Jersey colonial at first and was surprised it was a much later coin, considering the condition it was in. I believe one other one was found and posted on this forum in the past year or so...

Mine is in sad shape, but it still is nice to have it in the collection, congratulations on you adding another piece of history to your collection.

Don

 

[COUNTRY GIRL]

Cool find! Can't beat these folks for ID's. Keep digging that site.

 

[Evolution]

Re: Large copper today.....Need help with ID.

One possibility, and I have to dig my example out to compare is a 1835 Hard Times Token Walsh's General Store, I think the side with a plow says something like SPEED THE PLOUGH IT FEEDS ALL,, see if those words fit......... I believe that is the wording on that type of token

Don

I was just telling my friend Chris that one of you guys would ID it for me. My money was on you Don and you didn't disappoint. Thanks for the ID. I can definitely see it.

As soon as I saw what looked like a plow, it reminded me of that day back in the 80's when I found mine, I thought for sure I had another Jersey colonial at first and was surprised it was a much later coin, considering the condition it was in. I believe one other one was found and posted on this forum in the past year or so...

Mine is in sad shape, but it still is nice to have it in the collection, congratulations on you adding another piece of history to your collection.

Don

Thanks again Don. Any time I find something that you've found I can be sure I have a good find on my hands.

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: Large copper today.....Need help with ID.

One possibility, and I have to dig my example out to compare is a 1835 Hard Times Token Walsh's General Store, I think the side with a plow says something like SPEED THE PLOUGH IT FEEDS ALL,, see if those words fit......... I believe that is the wording on that type of token

Don

I was just telling my friend Chris that one of you guys would ID it for me. My money was on you Don and you didn't disappoint. Thanks for the ID. I can definitely see it.

As soon as I saw what looked like a plow, it reminded me of that day back in the 80's when I found mine, I thought for sure I had another Jersey colonial at first and was surprised it was a much later coin, considering the condition it was in. I believe one other one was found and posted on this forum in the past year or so...

Mine is in sad shape, but it still is nice to have it in the collection, congratulations on you adding another piece of history to your collection.

Don

Can I still guess French 12 Deniers?

 

[Colonial Copper Zeus]

Great job my man. We may have to dust off those tokens and use them again because those hard times are a comin.
Chris

 

[ModernMiner]

Cool find Ev.
Congrats.

Don,
You Sir are AMAZING!!! You are the PBK of coins & tokens.

-MM-

 

[allen]

that is a token that you dont see to many of...congrats

 

[Mirage]

Looks like that token got run over a couple times but that is an old one. Very Cool. 8)

Bob