karl , just some fun to prove to yourself dowsing works without you moving your hands because of what you see or hear causing an ideomotor response........ have someone videotape this for your later veiwing pleasure,,,,sit in a chair in the yard with earplugs in your ears,,,,,, have your kid hold a target out in front of you a ways , and get a good lock on it with rods,, have someone slip a thick cloth bag over your head so you can not see.......now your photographer quietly instructs the kid to walk about 15-20 feet left, then right, back and forth, or ever how he wants to as long as he is going slow and staying more or less in front of you........if your results were like mine you will see your rods followed the target every where it went as long as not moving too fast.........if this test does nothing other than boost your belief system it is worth the time to do it........after doing this you will know you did not do anything to make the rods move other than to concentrate on your target.......................also if interested in reading up on a series of double blind tests done by skeptics, and reveiwed by several people who all found the tests to be of scientific value as they were not found to be flawed as most known tests performed by skeptics have been found to be,,, then read up on the tests done by Chadwick and Jensen, performed around 1971 i think....more info on these tests and the reveiws of them are in my thread titled '' dowsing printed facts, info, and references'' or something close to this title... ....by the time these skeptics finished their testing they were having serious second thoughts about the subject, and were not quite as skeptical...............hope this will add some enlightenment..................gldhntr
