- Feb 1, 2007
- Detector(s) used
- Ace 250, GTI 2500
Why? This always bothered me about this guy.TREASURE HUNTER'S YEARBOOK
1970 - '71 A. T. Evans
von MUELLER, KARL; Exanimo Establishment, Segundo, Colorado 81070.
Has written under 23 or more pseudonyms, and is known better as Karl von Mueller, Dean Miller (his real name) or Deek Gladson ...
I think it was Randy who said the treasure magazines, like the pulp sci-fi/adventure periodicals, capped the number of articles printed per author. Of course that doesn't explain why he continued to use the pseudonyms long after he'd established his own publishing companies. Maybe to throw off others chasing his trail, so to speak ? Or maybe to give the illusion his publishing studio had more authors under its roof than it really did ? Great question.
Point Hunter , you've posted some interesting stuff here. Can you please circle or highlight the directional sign ? Having trouble seeing it. Thanks!This is a directional carving located @ Angelfire, NM. Angelfire is west & south of Cimmeron, NM and north and west of Black Lake, NM. IMHO, there should be other carved signs as well in this area. My best guess is it's pointing North/Northwest. However, without additional information, who knows?
Hi. I must confess, my computer skills aren't the greatest. Lol But, if you divide the pic into 4 quads(like the LUE map), it's in the top right quad. There are two trees seen along the skyline, it's the rock formation just to the left of the left hand tree. Enlarge it, and you can see the face profile. Also, if you look to the level below, you'll notice two small white eye catcher rocks sitting on a big rock. That's a frog/turtle looking up @ it confirming it IMHO.Point Hunter , you've posted some interesting stuff here. Can you please circle or highlight the directional sign ? Having trouble seeing it. Thanks!
I guess I never gave it much thought. I just assumed it was for multiple income streams. I don't know, but I'm guessing each submission didn't pay that much. But, the more I think about it, if I had a number of other names and say a po box with it, I could easily create fake id's.
Thanks.. I think I see it, maybe.Hi. I must confess, my computer skills aren't the greatest. Lol But, if you divide the pic into 4 quads(like the LUE map), it's in the top right quad. There are two trees seen along the skyline, it's the rock formation just to the left of the left hand tree. Enlarge it, and you can see the face profile. Also, if you look to the level below, you'll notice two small white eye catcher rocks sitting on a big rock. That's a frog/turtle looking up @ it confirming it IMHO.
These maps show a coal field that borders New Mexico & Colorado in the Raton area. I plotted LUE clues, known placer deposits, and all the areas mentioned in "The Ancient River of Gold" by Raymond Wallace on Google Earth. My focus was from Farmington, New Mexico (4 corners) east to the San Juan Valley. Then to Denver in the north and The Black Range (Socorro) in the south. Two things that became apparent, IMHO, were that the LUE possibly extends from the 105 all the way to the 107 latitude and KVM was probably not looking far enough to the west or northwest for his "Cavern of Gold". Mr. Wallace says the ancient river travels eastward from Farmington (along an uncharted course) and then branches both north and south roughly around the San Juan Valley along the border of New Mexico/Colorado. The known placer deposits seem to cluster along the western margin of the Raton coal field in Northern
so what do you think the LUE is ?New Mexico. IMHO, following the coal field could possibly yield more clues to the LUE &/or the cavern of gold.
Wrought iron S shapes were pretty common on tall brick buildings of the period; used for supporting the wall, especially chimneys.This is in the Cimmeron, New Mexico area. Look closely @ the pic, and notice the decorative wrought iron S's. The photo is @ legendsofamerica.com
Truth be told, most of his pseudonyms were simply derivations of his name. Best I can tell he really didn't like the name Charles. Some of his pseudonyms were things like Charles Dean Miller, Dean Miller, C.D. Miller, etc. I think the bulk of those, besides Deek Gladson, were used in the 1950s when he was trying to find himself. Keep in mind, this wasn't uncommon. Ed Bartholomew who had a solid reputation as a Western Historian published his treasure hunting materials under the name Jesse Rascoe. Maurice Kildare, who published literally hundreds of treasure hunting articles, was in fact Gladwell Richardson who published under nearly 3 dozen different names for a wide variety of periodicals as well as fiction novels.
There are three possible "best" possibilities in my estimation, strangely they are interconnected.so what do you think the LUE is ?
Seems like even KVM wasnt sure, or his ideas about it evolved over time. It's an Aztec treasure hoard, or mine, or a number of caches.
Given the history of gold, coal, and mineral mining in that NM-CO border region and the number of surveyors, geologists, and miners that have turned up every hillside, river, creek, and wash in the 19th-20th century it's sobering to realize there might not be anything left to discover
Karl announced a lot of book projects over the years that never reached fruition. Treasure Sign Manual and the Dowser's Manual are just two. Jesse Rascoe's Treasure Bibliography lists quite a few more, and the NPG is replete with references to other books he had been working on.TREASURE HUNTER'S YEARBOOK
1970 - '71 A. T. Evans
von MUELLER, KARL; Exanimo Establishment, Segundo, Colorado 81070. One of the best known, and most widely read contributors of information and techniques relating to the field of treasure hunting.
Started relic hunting at Fort Kearney, Nebraska, in 1931-32, by looking for buried guns and jewelry. Started finding money caches in the Oregon Trail campgrounds. and thus began a career as a treasure hunter. Hid most of the loot and toured western states by bus, train and airplane.
Returned to Nebraska to enter medical school bur joined the Army instead. Served one hitch and excused himself to return to civilian life and a career of writing and exploring.
Has written under 23 or more pseudonyms, and is known better as Karl von Mueller, Dean Miller (his real name) or Deek Gladson, the latter being a corruption of his initials and his wife's maiden name, Gladyce Johnson. Has authored numerous books dealing with prospecting and treasure hunting. The TREASURE HUNTER'S MANUAL series comprise his best known books of the adventure field. Started Exanirno Establishment in 1964, as a non-profit publishing firm. Expanded into metal detectors during the fall of that year, and the firm now supplies the professional field in treasure hunting and mining with a complete line of equipment. New books now being printed, or in the process of being completed are: TREASURE OF THE VALLEY OF SECRETS (the documented story of a genuine cave of gold in the Sangre de Cristo mountains), the GOLD DREDGER'S MANUAL (a technical how-to-do -it book for the beginner as well as for the experienced suction dredge operator), ENCYCLOPEDIA OF BURIED TREASURE AND PROSPECTING (a greatly enlarged 2nd edition of the original Encyclopedia of Treasure), THE TREASURE SIGN MANUAL (a completely new dictionary of treasure signs which include hobo, outlaw, Indian, Spanish, Church and other signs), detector manuals (a series of metal detector manuals that provide complex details of individual circuits and extensive how-to-use-them information), and THE DOWSERS MANUAL (a complete treatment of the dowsing or divining field around the world). In addition, negotiations are underway for reprinting the seven published TREASURE HUNTER'S MANUALS, of which all are currently out of print. The eighth edition is approximately half done, and will be published late in 1971.
LUE clue...the Obit of Karl von Mueller / Biography of Karl von MuellerJust wanted to share a few things about Karl von Mueller that I've ran across. These all reveal a bit more about his life and his accomplishments and also suggest his involvement with the LUE. The first is a brief write-up he received in Western/Eastern Treasures where he wrote for at least 10...www.treasurenet.com
Here is a partial quote from Karl Von Muellers biography that was published in 1970-71 by Mr. A T Evans. I have seen most of KVM's published books but have never heard of "The Treasure Sign Manual". A quick internet search doesn't show this book either. I mention this because here is another book possibly related to the LUE, which has been quoted as being in print, but appears not to exist. Speculation by one of our members, is that KVM wrote this bibliography himself. If that's so, why mention this book and to what purpose? IMHO, it's to put searchers on the right path and possibly provide a clue when looking for signs in the field.
1) Interesting conjecture, but how can you claim this as factual? For those interested in Treasure Mountain proven facts, check out a number of mdog's posts in this thread: Treasure Mountain, CO - Lost Frenchmens GoldThere are three possible "best" possibilities in my estimation, strangely they are interconnected.
1.) The LUE is in fact one in the same as the Lost Frenchmen gold of Treasure Mountain. ...
2.) KGC, Bob Brewer has confirmed this suspicion ...
3.) The KGC using the Treasure Mountain story as a cover story. ...
4.) I haven't ruled out Spanish/Jesuit collaborating, but there just isn't much there to run with beyond thin speculation.
What the LUE is NOT:
1) Interesting conjecture, but how can you claim this as factual? For those interested in Treasure Mountain proven facts, check out a number of mdog's posts in this thread: Treasure Mountain, CO - Lost Frenchmens Gold
2) Bob is a respected and mondo contributor to TH lore, but those who know him will attest that he is certainly not infallible. "Confirmed"? When? Where?
3) This is far and away the most probable, IMO, and if so would verify my LUE hoax opinion. As you know, it's my contention that a very large number of treasure tales first appeared in the 1920s-30s, and are in fact cover stories meant to discourage searchers looking for possibly valid gold caches in many locations. I guess in this respect, many treasure tales could be deemed hoaxes, but let's say instead "hoaxes based on truths". Was Miller associated with a later incarnation of the KGC? That would be an interesting topic to pursue.