Military item? Eagle encircled with stars

BuckleBoy · Jan 27, 2015

Hello all,

Was wondering if anyone could ID this item. Dug with a bunch of Civil War bullets (Yankee) and one CS button, and I feel that this has got to be military. Any ideas? The item is slightly plow bent at the bottom...

Thanks in advance,

Buck

jamesbibb · Jan 28, 2015

Cool find buck
Not sure on this item but this eagle with stars is very similar to designs of patriotic dinnerware I've seen

BuckleBoy · Jan 28, 2015

jamesbibb said:
Cool find buck
Not sure on this item but this eagle with stars is very similar to designs of patriotic dinnerware I've seen

I'm waiting for a final confirmation from several sources, but it looks like we may have a martingale here.

I'm still seeking information regarding age range. Also seeking discussion on this ID of the item as a martingale.

BuckleBoy · Jan 28, 2015

Now appears that it may be a shoulder belt plate. Am waiting for info from a professional militaria appraiser...

nsdq · Jan 28, 2015

looks like a hat badge to me.... war of 1812 ? maybe

BuckleBoy · Jan 28, 2015

nsdq said:
looks like a hat badge to me.... war of 1812 ? maybe

Seems like the attachments are much too "heavy duty" for a cap badge. These look like brass posts with washers peened on. Certainly meant to go through leather rather than wool IMO...

nsdq · Jan 30, 2015

ether way it is a real neat find happy huntinn

BuckleBoy · Jan 30, 2015

FYI, the item was identified as a medallion from the side of a Mexican War era officer's stirrup. This can be seen in the following link:

PAIR OF MEXICAN WAR OFFICER?S STIRRUPS ? Horse Soldier

Special thanks to Mark Parker from Western & Eastern Treasures Magazine for all his excellent help.

duggap · Jan 30, 2015

BuckleBoy said:
FYI, the item was identified as a medallion from the side of a Mexican War era officer's stirrup. This can be seen in the following link:

PAIR OF MEXICAN WAR OFFICER?S STIRRUPS ? Horse Soldier

Special thanks to Mark Parker from Western & Eastern Treasures Magazine for all his excellent help.

Nice going guys. Really wanted to know what it was. I kept trying to make it off a drum or something like that.

Broken knee · Jan 31, 2015

BuckleBoy said:
FYI, the item was identified as a medallion from the side of a Mexican War era officer's stirrup. This can be seen in the following link:

PAIR OF MEXICAN WAR OFFICER?S STIRRUPS ? Horse Soldier

Special thanks to Mark Parker from Western & Eastern Treasures Magazine for all his excellent help.

It's a nice piece, but If you look at the link enlarge the second image in the thumbnails the image it is not a match to your item. Yours looks like a bit boss jmo? HH
BK
This pic is an 1812 stirrup

BuckleBoy · Jan 31, 2015

Broken knee said:
It's a nice piece, but If you look at the link enlarge the second image in the thumbnails the image it is not a match to your item. Yours looks like a bit boss jmo? HH
BK
This pic is an 1812 stirrup

I didn't say it was a match. There is not photo of a match. The link sent came from a military appraiser and expert via Mark Parker from Western & Eastern Treasures Magazine. I'm quite confident that the ID is correct. I found the side of the stirrup where the piece attached. I'm marking this solved.

sutphin · Feb 1, 2015

Maybe im wrong but I agree with broken knee there seems to be only one attachment hole not two ,what is I don't know but I would love to find something like that.Item like that would be nice after a day of finding a bunch of can slaw . Man it is neat no matter what it is .vanzutphen

Mud Hut · Feb 1, 2015

I recall seeing a pommel on a sword at a Civil War show that looked something like that.

creskol · Feb 2, 2015

Mud Hut said:
I recall seeing a pommel on a sword at a Civil War show that looked something like that.

I know the one you are talking about, but haven't been able to find a photo of it anywhere. I did, however, find this picture of one similar.

BuckleBoy · Feb 2, 2015

creskol said:
I know the one you are talking about, but haven't been able to find a photo of it anywhere. I did, however, find this picture of one similar.

Mark Parker identified one of these sword pommels several years ago. Attachment on them was one post in the center on the back. Sword pommels were ovals, not elongated with an extra piece at the bottom. Only one attachment instead of two. The design IS similar, but the ID I was given on my relic came from a 19th c. militaria expert that Mark Parker contacted, so I'm quite satisfied with the ID and thanks all. Besides, after the ID was sent to me, I realized that I have the side and top of the stirrup that this came from, from the same field.

Regards,

Buck

Mud Hut · Feb 2, 2015

BuckleBoy said:
Mark Parker identified one of these sword pommels several years ago. Attachment on them was one post in the center on the back. Sword pommels were ovals, not elongated with an extra piece at the bottom. Only one attachment instead of two. The design IS similar, but the ID I was given on my relic came from a 19th c. militaria expert that Mark Parker contacted, so I'm quite satisfied with the ID and thanks all. Besides, after the ID was sent to me, I realized that I have the side and top of the stirrup that this came from, from the same field.

Regards,

Buck

Okay, I guess it is solved then. A stirrup boss it is.