✅ SOLVED military ribbon bar?

[Viddy]

I dug this up in an old park. tried cleaning it up without scrubbing. didn't want to ruin the white and red cloth on it.

Any idea what branch? what it's for?

 

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[nhbenz]

Is there still a brooch-bar attached to it that it slides onto? If so which style of fastener does it have? Will the brooch-bar slide off, and are there any markings? One complication is that with all of the multiple-national forces that have been in the middle east it may not be a U.S. ribbon if the various troops exchanged such things with foreign friends, etc
It appears to me that there is a thin blue? line between the red and white fields, am I correct? At any rate I doubt it could date back further than the Vietnam War, and I noticed Don's link is for a WWII era award. But as always, I could be wrong about any of this. There were Arab-presented medals and Argentinian medals that I noted which have this pattern with these proportions, but they could be ruled out if its US made, but I would be curious as to whether or not there are any marks on any part of it.

 

[packerbacker]

That ribbon represents the "National Defense Medal"....It's given to everyone serving in the military during times of conflict

 

[Retired Sarge]

The absence of the White when zoomed in, means it is not the NDSM. I'll have to look and figure out which one it is.

 

[packerbacker]

Viddy said he wanted to be careful to not ruin the WHITE and red cloth. I believe his has white in it if I understood him correctly

 

[packerbacker]

They will vary in appearance based on who made them and I'm sure colors would "bleed" a little when exposed to the elements.

 

[Retired Sarge]

True they will bleed some, it's just when I zoomed in on the ribbon, it actually looked like there was no white on it. In hand maybe it can be seen. Even my worst NDSM ribbon I have, you can still see the white. Was thinking maybe it was National Guard ribbon or something. Unless the OP is saying that the middle stripe on the ribbon is white versus yellow. Again zoomed in I am not able to make out where the white stripe on either side of the blue stripe would be.

Also the middle stripe in my opinion is too wide for the NDSM.

 

[GaRebel1861]

Might be a dumb question, but are we sure that this is an American ribbon? I looked for this on line and could not find a match from any service branch.

 

[Retired Sarge]

Good question GaReb, I looked through, AF, Navy, GC, Marines, Army, National Guard, now starting CAP awards and decorations with no luck so far!

 

[GaRebel1861]

Good question GaReb, I looked through, AF, Navy, GC, Marines, Army, National Guard, now starting CAP awards and decorations with no luck so far!

I did not think of CAP or the ROTC.

 

[NOLA_Ken]

I looked at several lists, and the closest I saw was the Army Distinguished Service Ribbon, bit it's not an exact match.

 

[Retired Sarge]

Been through the CAP and ROTC ribbons no luck so far. You can add the Merchant Marines and Public Health Office to the list now also. Went back through all the National Guard ones again.

http://www.usamilitarymedals.com/index.html

 

[nsdq]

firemans award ? or police ?

 

[packerbacker]

ffuries......I agree, I don't see white in his pic either but, if the red bled over the white, and the yellow over the red AND white, that would explain the yellow being that wide and the white disappearing. I'm still stuck on the NDM but I admit I could be wrong although that's a rare occasion indeed. .

 

[packerbacker]

This is Viddy's pic also....I can make myself see the white and red on, at least, the left side

 

[packerbacker]

That does it!!!! Viddy, get that ribbon cleaned up!!!!!!!!

 

[NOLA_Ken]

I've looked all over and am starting to think it can't be an American Military ribbon, the closest I've found are a Coast Guard service medal (no black stripes) the Army DSM (not quite right) and a Canadian Service medal (no black stripes)

 

[Retired Sarge]

We'll look ourselves blind until someone finds it. Looked at so many, my eyes are seeing ribbons when I am not even looking at them now.

 

[nhbenz]

I'd somewhat given up on US military as well, pending any info that might be on the attachment device. The closest US ribbon I could find is the Multinational Force and Observers medal, but the blue stripes are a bit thick:
multinational forces observers medal - Google Search

 

[nhbenz]

If it weren't for the thin blue lines I'd say Canadian Special Service Medal